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Here are some emails and headers that you might be interested in: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/ ph

by kanzure 13y ago

Here are some emails and headers that you might be interested in: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/ http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/ phrases: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/phrases.txt http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/phrases.txt He might be one of these people: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/p2p-research-members.txt http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/p2p-research-mem... Here are some forum posts timestamps: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/datetimes.yaml http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-satoshi/datetimes.yaml I also feel it is necessary to point out that it is completely possible to spoof forum posts to match his writing style and C++ idioms. So there might be someone posing as a "second satoshi" waiting to be discovered by phrase analysis. This is one of the vulnerabilities of his pseudonym. Happy hacking.

clicks 13y ago
Wait, what, why are you guys ascribing so much importance to the dating format? yyyy-mm-dd is the format I've been using for a long, long time, and I have no affiliation with cypherpunks nor have I ever had any. I know a lot of non-programmers who use it too. It's just a good, solid, sensical time format (largest to smallest, just like we already tell time: hh:mm:ss). I think I first came across the idea of using it in everyday situations like 5 years ago on some gaming forums. You should all use it too, because it just makes too much sense. :) No, seriously, please start using yyyy-mm-dd whenever wherever you can. It is most especially useful when you're doing text analysis, makes life very easy there.
- clarkm 13y ago
  It's so people can guess what time zone he's in! Casual analysis points to "not Japan".
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- kanzure 13y ago
  Well, no. The file "datetimes.yaml" contains a list of serialized ISO 8601 timestamps because that's how you represent timestamps in yaml. These timestamps represent the different timestamps that bitcointalk.org gives to the posts made by the Satoshi pseudonym. I am not implying that anyone who uses ISO 8601 might be Satoshi. Rather, I am providing you with a list of timestamps in ISO 8601 format. I am making no claims about how Satoshi tends to write timestamps (and I don't remember if I even looked at that, I think I got bored). These timestamps can be used to determine which timezone he is a member of, or which timezone he wanted you to think he was a member of, or to compare against other email headers. For example, I would love to compare this data against a historically-accurate cypherpunk email archive. (I do not have one at the moment.) However, he could have written some small amount of software to delay the posts he wrote to the forum, but some of them look very timely. He could also have written software to delay the times that his posts were posted, to make it sync up with the timestamps of another cypherpunk member (which would be hilarious and evil). I think a more thorough analysis would have to look at each individual Satoshi forum post and determine whether or not it was written "probably delayed", because sometimes the delta between the post he wrote and the post he was replying to was very tiny, which would improve the chances that he was not on a delay timer (unless he spoofed all questions he replied to, which I also doubt).
  - clicks 13y ago
    Oh, so bringing up his timestamps was for that... you guys weren't talking about the format per se. Sorry about that, completely my fault for misunderstanding.
rheide 13y ago
I'm highly doubtful that anyone in Japan could/would use such flawless English, especially online and in code comments. The Englishisms might be a sign of a paranoid American trying to obfuscate his writing, but I'd put my money on Satoshi being English, attributing any Americanisms to the fact that the internet is largely dominated by American English, so it's easy for anyone to pick it up without even realizing.
- mafribe 13y ago
  Shinichi Mochizuki lived in the US from age 5 to his mid 20s, so he would certainly have native fluency in English. I don't think he's Satoshi though.
- minikomi 13y ago
  Hi, from an expat in Japan.

by kanzure 13y ago

clicks 13y ago

Wait, what, why are you guys ascribing so much importance to the dating format? yyyy-mm-dd is the format I've been using for a long, long time, and I have no affiliation with cypherpunks nor have I ever had any. I know a lot of non-programmers who use it too. It's just a good, solid, sensical time format (largest to smallest, just like we already tell time: hh:mm:ss). I think I first came across the idea of using it in everyday situations like 5 years ago on some gaming forums. You should all use it too, because it just makes too much sense. :) No, seriously, please start using yyyy-mm-dd whenever wherever you can. It is most especially useful when you're doing text analysis, makes life very easy there.

clarkm 13y ago
It's so people can guess what time zone he's in! Casual analysis points to "not Japan".
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kanzure 13y ago
Well, no. The file "datetimes.yaml" contains a list of serialized ISO 8601 timestamps because that's how you represent timestamps in yaml. These timestamps represent the different timestamps that bitcointalk.org gives to the posts made by the Satoshi pseudonym. I am not implying that anyone who uses ISO 8601 might be Satoshi. Rather, I am providing you with a list of timestamps in ISO 8601 format. I am making no claims about how Satoshi tends to write timestamps (and I don't remember if I even looked at that, I think I got bored). These timestamps can be used to determine which timezone he is a member of, or which timezone he wanted you to think he was a member of, or to compare against other email headers. For example, I would love to compare this data against a historically-accurate cypherpunk email archive. (I do not have one at the moment.) However, he could have written some small amount of software to delay the posts he wrote to the forum, but some of them look very timely. He could also have written software to delay the times that his posts were posted, to make it sync up with the timestamps of another cypherpunk member (which would be hilarious and evil). I think a more thorough analysis would have to look at each individual Satoshi forum post and determine whether or not it was written "probably delayed", because sometimes the delta between the post he wrote and the post he was replying to was very tiny, which would improve the chances that he was not on a delay timer (unless he spoofed all questions he replied to, which I also doubt).
- clicks 13y ago
  Oh, so bringing up his timestamps was for that... you guys weren't talking about the format per se. Sorry about that, completely my fault for misunderstanding.

rheide 13y ago

I'm highly doubtful that anyone in Japan could/would use such flawless English, especially online and in code comments. The Englishisms might be a sign of a paranoid American trying to obfuscate his writing, but I'd put my money on Satoshi being English, attributing any Americanisms to the fact that the internet is largely dominated by American English, so it's easy for anyone to pick it up without even realizing.

mafribe 13y ago
Shinichi Mochizuki lived in the US from age 5 to his mid 20s, so he would certainly have native fluency in English. I don't think he's Satoshi though.
minikomi 13y ago
Hi, from an expat in Japan.