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I don't use Linux, I use FreeBSD. I don't use a "Desktop Environment," I use DWM. I've run the gamut, from GNOME, to Xfce4, to LXDE, etc... They all have too

by D9u 13y ago

I don't use Linux, I use FreeBSD. I don't use a "Desktop Environment," I use DWM. I've run the gamut, from GNOME, to Xfce4, to LXDE, etc... They all have too much extraneous software. I'd much rather build a system up, rather than tear it down, in my quest to squeeze as much performance out of my netbook as I can.

S4M 13y ago
Why was this downvoted originally?
- deleted 13y ago
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- arjie 13y ago
  While it is relevant due to the similarities of shells available, BSD is not Linux. I can see how someone might see it as the same as saying, "I don't use Linux. I use Windows with the default shell.". That is not relevant.
  - D9u 13y ago
    My comment is relevant in that FreeBSD runs many of the same applications that Linux users run, including Desktop Environments.
    - S4M 13y ago
      Yes. For this particular case, we don't care about what's under the hood (BSD or any Linux distro), but about the hood itself, which doesn't depend on the OS as long as it is Linux or a BSD.
virtualwhys 13y ago
Respect, will be ditching Gnome stack when I switch to Fedora 19. For me it's not about resource consumption, but rather, the plain suck factor (of Gnome 3)
celerity 13y ago
People don't run desktop environments to squeeze performance (although it's a plus!), but to gain productivity in a convenient and easy way.
- D9u 13y ago
  Interestingly, my productivity has increased diametrically in relation to the amount of extraneous software I avoid by eschewing any preconfigured DE.
keithpeter 13y ago
For those who wish to try before they buy (into) a tiling window manager, the repository dwm/suckless-tools work fine on Ubuntu 12.04 so you can log into a DWM session, and log out again using Shift-Alt-q. If you like the experience, you will need to uninstall the stock repository dwm binary and compile a replacement from source as the configuration is in a c header file.
apotheon 13y ago
> I don't use Linux, I use FreeBSD. Ditto. For me, however, the performance benefits of going fairly minimal are kinda secondary to the productivity benefits of choosing tools that stay the hell out of my way. While there's a lot to like about dwm (I rather like its tag concept as a replacement for workspaces, for instance), I find it a bit limiting for my purposes. Spectrwm is another good one, and it gets too little attention. Xmonad is pretty good. For floating rather than tiling window managers, I think AHWM is pretty awesome, though it has been abandoned for years; it could stand to be picked up by a new maintainer. I ended up with i3, though; it's tiling with decent functionality, including its native support for tabbing windows. It used to be better, actually, in that it was easier to mix and match different window arrangement styles within a single workspace, but even after making that marginally less usable it still does more in that regard than other WMs I've tried out.

by D9u 13y ago

S4M 13y ago

Why was this downvoted originally?

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arjie 13y ago
While it is relevant due to the similarities of shells available, BSD is not Linux. I can see how someone might see it as the same as saying, "I don't use Linux. I use Windows with the default shell.". That is not relevant.
- D9u 13y ago
  My comment is relevant in that FreeBSD runs many of the same applications that Linux users run, including Desktop Environments.
  - S4M 13y ago
    Yes. For this particular case, we don't care about what's under the hood (BSD or any Linux distro), but about the hood itself, which doesn't depend on the OS as long as it is Linux or a BSD.

virtualwhys 13y ago

Respect, will be ditching Gnome stack when I switch to Fedora 19. For me it's not about resource consumption, but rather, the plain suck factor (of Gnome 3)

celerity 13y ago

People don't run desktop environments to squeeze performance (although it's a plus!), but to gain productivity in a convenient and easy way.

D9u 13y ago
Interestingly, my productivity has increased diametrically in relation to the amount of extraneous software I avoid by eschewing any preconfigured DE.

keithpeter 13y ago

For those who wish to try before they buy (into) a tiling window manager, the repository dwm/suckless-tools work fine on Ubuntu 12.04 so you can log into a DWM session, and log out again using Shift-Alt-q. If you like the experience, you will need to uninstall the stock repository dwm binary and compile a replacement from source as the configuration is in a c header file.

apotheon 13y ago

> I don't use Linux, I use FreeBSD. Ditto. For me, however, the performance benefits of going fairly minimal are kinda secondary to the productivity benefits of choosing tools that stay the hell out of my way. While there's a lot to like about dwm (I rather like its tag concept as a replacement for workspaces, for instance), I find it a bit limiting for my purposes. Spectrwm is another good one, and it gets too little attention. Xmonad is pretty good. For floating rather than tiling window managers, I think AHWM is pretty awesome, though it has been abandoned for years; it could stand to be picked up by a new maintainer. I ended up with i3, though; it's tiling with decent functionality, including its native support for tabbing windows. It used to be better, actually, in that it was easier to mix and match different window arrangement styles within a single workspace, but even after making that marginally less usable it still does more in that regard than other WMs I've tried out.