Thanks for the pointer, I just switch to PCManFM. Anyway, using the version in Ubuntu 12.10 can sort by clicking on the column headers. Also, as someone who do

Thanks for the pointer, I just switch to PCManFM. Anyway, using the version in Ubuntu 12.10 can sort by clicking on the column headers. Also, as someone who does not use a full DE, I appreciate the fact that the defualt is not to start managed the desktop when you start PCManFM, as opposed to Nautilus which defaults to managing the desktop when you open it. I still don't get why managing the desktop is always the same program as the file explorer, but Windows does the same thing, so their might be some deeper reason than 'becuase nautilus is doing it'