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"cannot" I think you and the US Government have very different ideas about what can and cannot happen now or in the future. When I was growing up, the US Gove

"cannot" I think you and the US Government have very different ideas about what can and cannot happen now or in the future. When I was growing up, the US Government "cannot" execute its citizens without due process (a trial). And now we see where "cannot" gets us when we use it as an ameliorative when describing a situation or potential situation.

venomsnake 13y ago
Well the problem is the US government always had the ability to shoot anyone on sight. It was just too much trouble before the blank cheque of 9/11 to use it. But a project that is just a bunch of source code with no owner - you are not technically able to prevent it from existing. The only way is (once again) outlawing encryption. I think that if we here in HN have spare time we could create a very solid P2P protocol that has plausible deniability of encryption (you cannot outlaw exchanging UDP packets of random data) And the problem with the government overreach can easily be solved by educating the public - then fighting "drug lord pedophile hacker Muslim terrorists" just wont pass everything with the public. Look at the awesome job the NRA is doing. To prevent the thread degrading - no matter where you stand on the gun debate, you cannot deny their effectiveness at stopping any gun related legislation. So the government selling feat to the public is ready for disruption. One just have to find the proper way to communicate with the people. Make the first and fourth as sacred as the second and the problem is solved. This is marketing problem.
- wavefunction 13y ago
  I agree about working on a message that resonates with the general populate. I've found it incredibly easy to seem like a crazy tin-foil hat guy with these sorts of situations, when a more sober, rational, and measured approach would have proven more effective. Personally, it's easy to get very emotionally fired up about these erosions of our civil rights, but I have to remind myself that for many people emotion === unbalance. So I'm trying to incorporate "gentleness" and humor into how I promote the causes I care about and how I talk about these potentially very serious problems. It seems to be much more effective than bombast!
- simcop2387 13y ago
  I think that if we here in HN have spare time we could create a very solid P2P protocol that has plausible deniability of encryption (you cannot outlaw exchanging UDP packets of random data) And the problem with the government overreach can easily be solved by educating the public - then fighting "drug lord pedophile hacker Muslim terrorists" just wont pass everything with the public. This is theoretically what freenet is all about. I'd love to see it take off more for just this kind of thing.

venomsnake 13y ago

Well the problem is the US government always had the ability to shoot anyone on sight. It was just too much trouble before the blank cheque of 9/11 to use it. But a project that is just a bunch of source code with no owner - you are not technically able to prevent it from existing. The only way is (once again) outlawing encryption. I think that if we here in HN have spare time we could create a very solid P2P protocol that has plausible deniability of encryption (you cannot outlaw exchanging UDP packets of random data) And the problem with the government overreach can easily be solved by educating the public - then fighting "drug lord pedophile hacker Muslim terrorists" just wont pass everything with the public. Look at the awesome job the NRA is doing. To prevent the thread degrading - no matter where you stand on the gun debate, you cannot deny their effectiveness at stopping any gun related legislation. So the government selling feat to the public is ready for disruption. One just have to find the proper way to communicate with the people. Make the first and fourth as sacred as the second and the problem is solved. This is marketing problem.

wavefunction 13y ago
I agree about working on a message that resonates with the general populate. I've found it incredibly easy to seem like a crazy tin-foil hat guy with these sorts of situations, when a more sober, rational, and measured approach would have proven more effective. Personally, it's easy to get very emotionally fired up about these erosions of our civil rights, but I have to remind myself that for many people emotion === unbalance. So I'm trying to incorporate "gentleness" and humor into how I promote the causes I care about and how I talk about these potentially very serious problems. It seems to be much more effective than bombast!
simcop2387 13y ago
I think that if we here in HN have spare time we could create a very solid P2P protocol that has plausible deniability of encryption (you cannot outlaw exchanging UDP packets of random data) And the problem with the government overreach can easily be solved by educating the public - then fighting "drug lord pedophile hacker Muslim terrorists" just wont pass everything with the public. This is theoretically what freenet is all about. I'd love to see it take off more for just this kind of thing.