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Meteor on Windows

63 points by qiqing 13y ago

no_js 13y ago
<title>Meteor on Windows</title> </head> <body> </body> </html>
- MatthewPhillips 13y ago
  <a href=https://www.virtualbox.org/>Meteor https://www.virtualbox.org/>Meteor on Windows</a>
- Tomdarkness 13y ago
  Wondered what your comment was about until I saw your username. Although I'm not one to really demand sites provide support for browsers without JS enabled it does seem a bit silly that the site requires JS to just display what is basically a static page.
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  - jaredsohn 13y ago
    For those curious, the FAQ says that this should be addressed in the future (it presently sends HTML to search engines if the spiderable package is installed.) >A future version of Meteor will also send HTML to web browsers on inital page load. The Meteor templating system was designed specifically to support this use case.
    - felixmar 13y ago
      I wonder why they have not implemented that from the beginning. Right now rendering the initial page with JavaScript feels non-native, like a Flash plug-in. I suspect that it will be even more noticeable for large web applications.
- yathern 13y ago
  Though I understand the point you are trying to make, and agree with it as well, lets please not have novelty accounts here.
- marknutter 13y ago
  Protip - if you turn javascript on you can read the article.
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- outside1234 13y ago
  I know what you are trying to say, but I'd argue that the time has gone and past on HTML-only. JavaScript is a required part of the internet presentation platform at this point.
  - jabbernotty 13y ago
    Required for this page, yes. But, necessary? Only for interactive visualizations and content updates.
    - ericd 13y ago
      It's gone far beyond that for many sites. It's essentially a minimum requirement now, and there's not much good reason for it not to be enabled.
      - Legion 13y ago
        I would prefer my mobile devices not have to burn the extra battery required to execute JavaScript code just to display a page of purely static content. Yes, it is reasonable to expect all browsers to have JavaScript enabled, but that doesn't mean it should be carelessly used.
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      - jabbernotty 13y ago
        But there IS good reason for disabling things like js. Disabling makes sense for both security and privacy reasons, and yes, costs. The most publicized example of the latter is cheaper airline tickets.
sergiotapia 13y ago
With certain frameworks and languages, I have just decided to bite the bullet and use Linux to avoid running into bugs that the minority have. Logically, if few people have a bug, it won't get as much resources to get fixed. It's like developing a Rails application on Windows, I can do it sure; but _should_ I? Linux Mint is a great alternative to the clusterfuck that Ubuntu has become and it's been a simple transition from Windows 7. Multiple monitor support is intuitive as well. No configuration needed.
- tucaz 13y ago
  Vagrant is also an awesome alternative to a VM or full installation of any Linux flavor. I've been playing with it and together with the subset of Linux commands that comes with MSysGit I can even SSH into the Vagrant box from the regular Windows command prompt or Console2.
  - shoebappa 13y ago
    The new http://win.meteor.com http://win.meteor.com also documents two Vagrant-based solutions for those that feel the same way, and should kick-start someone unfamiliar with Vagrant / Shell / Chef / Linux. I maintain the Chef version posted here... Edit: And it should be highlighted that these Vagrant solutions offer a work around for the Meteor MongoDB to be able to utilize the Vagrant Synced folders, so the editing and viewing is near-native using your standard Windows tools. The live updating in Meteor also works, and the Vagrant versions also support Meteorite.
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  - karanbhangui 13y ago
    Huge fan of vagrant, but found it really annoying for node projects. It seems virtualbox vm's don't work well when mixing shared folders and symlinks (used for local npm installs). Has anyone found a workout for this?
volokoumphetico 13y ago
Get a Mac, install Meteor.
webmech 13y ago
what a waste of talent, i pity any company using windows as a server...

Meteor on Windows

63 points by qiqing 13y ago

no_js 13y ago

<title>Meteor on Windows</title> </head> <body> </body> </html>

MatthewPhillips 13y ago
<a href=https://www.virtualbox.org/>Meteor https://www.virtualbox.org/>Meteor on Windows</a>
Tomdarkness 13y ago
Wondered what your comment was about until I saw your username. Although I'm not one to really demand sites provide support for browsers without JS enabled it does seem a bit silly that the site requires JS to just display what is basically a static page.
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]
- jaredsohn 13y ago
  For those curious, the FAQ says that this should be addressed in the future (it presently sends HTML to search engines if the spiderable package is installed.) >A future version of Meteor will also send HTML to web browsers on inital page load. The Meteor templating system was designed specifically to support this use case.
  - felixmar 13y ago
    I wonder why they have not implemented that from the beginning. Right now rendering the initial page with JavaScript feels non-native, like a Flash plug-in. I suspect that it will be even more noticeable for large web applications.
yathern 13y ago
Though I understand the point you are trying to make, and agree with it as well, lets please not have novelty accounts here.
marknutter 13y ago
Protip - if you turn javascript on you can read the article.
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]
outside1234 13y ago
I know what you are trying to say, but I'd argue that the time has gone and past on HTML-only. JavaScript is a required part of the internet presentation platform at this point.
- jabbernotty 13y ago
  Required for this page, yes. But, necessary? Only for interactive visualizations and content updates.
  - ericd 13y ago
    It's gone far beyond that for many sites. It's essentially a minimum requirement now, and there's not much good reason for it not to be enabled.
    - Legion 13y ago
      I would prefer my mobile devices not have to burn the extra battery required to execute JavaScript code just to display a page of purely static content. Yes, it is reasonable to expect all browsers to have JavaScript enabled, but that doesn't mean it should be carelessly used.
      - deleted 13y ago
        [deleted]
    - jabbernotty 13y ago
      But there IS good reason for disabling things like js. Disabling makes sense for both security and privacy reasons, and yes, costs. The most publicized example of the latter is cheaper airline tickets.

sergiotapia 13y ago

With certain frameworks and languages, I have just decided to bite the bullet and use Linux to avoid running into bugs that the minority have. Logically, if few people have a bug, it won't get as much resources to get fixed. It's like developing a Rails application on Windows, I can do it sure; but _should_ I? Linux Mint is a great alternative to the clusterfuck that Ubuntu has become and it's been a simple transition from Windows 7. Multiple monitor support is intuitive as well. No configuration needed.

tucaz 13y ago
Vagrant is also an awesome alternative to a VM or full installation of any Linux flavor. I've been playing with it and together with the subset of Linux commands that comes with MSysGit I can even SSH into the Vagrant box from the regular Windows command prompt or Console2.
- shoebappa 13y ago
  The new http://win.meteor.com http://win.meteor.com also documents two Vagrant-based solutions for those that feel the same way, and should kick-start someone unfamiliar with Vagrant / Shell / Chef / Linux. I maintain the Chef version posted here... Edit: And it should be highlighted that these Vagrant solutions offer a work around for the Meteor MongoDB to be able to utilize the Vagrant Synced folders, so the editing and viewing is near-native using your standard Windows tools. The live updating in Meteor also works, and the Vagrant versions also support Meteorite.
  - deleted 13y ago
    [deleted]
- karanbhangui 13y ago
  Huge fan of vagrant, but found it really annoying for node projects. It seems virtualbox vm's don't work well when mixing shared folders and symlinks (used for local npm installs). Has anyone found a workout for this?

volokoumphetico 13y ago

Get a Mac, install Meteor.

webmech 13y ago

what a waste of talent, i pity any company using windows as a server...