>but it addresses the critical need of having solid unit tests No, it is entirely orthogonal to having unit tests, that's exactly what I was saying. There is

>but it addresses the critical need of having solid unit tests No, it is entirely orthogonal to having unit tests, that's exactly what I was saying. There is absolutely no evidence to support the claims that TDD is more effective than just being a normal developer who writes tests as needed. >This last excuse is most egregious because one rarely has time to go back and write tests Says who? I think it is pretty absurd to invent fake problems to try to justify something. If TDD were actually useful, proponents wouldn't need to compare TDD with "don't write tests at all because obviously the only way to end up with tests is using TDD".