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I think it's funny that they don't seem to think of Eclipse as an IDE even though that is probably where it is most used and most valuable, esp. when you consid

I think it's funny that they don't seem to think of Eclipse as an IDE even though that is probably where it is most used and most valuable, esp. when you consider things like Zend Studio, Flex Builder, and Aptana Studio (which powers Appcelerator now). Yet, the Eclipse team doesn't seem to see itself as an IDE but more of a toolkit. That is completely stupid. Eclipse deserves to have its core market slowly taken away by IntelliJ. Also JetBrain's various flavors of its IDE are far superior to Eclipse.

nsxwolf 13y ago
All the rebranded Eclipses remind me of those concert tours that rename themselves for every local market to make it look like the rinky dink local radio station organized a massive 3 stage music festival. "Oh wow, you guys wrote your own IDE??! That's gr... Oh."
xtracto 13y ago
> Eclipse deserves to have its core market slowly taken away by IntelliJ No please, for a lot of companies not in the USA (say, in Mexico), the price of any JetBrains product is prohibitive.