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It's not a question of scale, it's a question of management. Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots. Pure and simple. Suit wearing, non-te
by seivan 13y ago
It's not a question of scale, it's a question of management. Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots. Pure and simple. Suit wearing, non-technical morons.
Congratulations on your new job, exercise, fresh air and freshly picked berries and vegetables. Sounds pretty decent compared to sitting in front of a screen slaving for knock-off phones with shitty vendored junk.
Seeing the company you work for doing commercials like http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2013/04/29/a-terrible-idea-samsungs-reworks-gangnam-style-to-promote-the-galaxy-s4-at-a-launch-event-in-india/ http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2013/04/29/a-terrible-idea-... (even if it was by a third party PR company) is kinda.. weak.
- clearly 13y ago> Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots Samsung shareholders may disagree with you there....
- seivan 13y agoNo I am sure, and they are producing more wealth than I (probably) _EVER_ could. But doesn't mean it's a fun place for a designer and/or software engineer to be. It means it's great to be on the board, manager or shareholder. OP is a software engineer.
- _pmf_ 13y ago> But doesn't mean it's a fun place for a designer and/or software engineer to be. I bet it was wonderful to work at Apple under Steve Jobs. Just wonderful.
- seivan 13y agoIt sounds tough, but at least the thing you do isn't bullshit. I mean. C'mon iOS as an operating system is amazing, working with those engineers would be kick-ass for some people.
- hkmurakami 13y agoI would have such a serious moral hazard and hypocrisy problem there that I can't imagine being happy as a manager at Samsung. (I used to be an engineer, transitioned to pm, I'll probably be a suit within the next 5 years sadly) I don't think IP theft and blatant product copying is morally correct, and I can't work at a place where I have to support such practices.
- clearly 13y agoSo what the previous poster should have said is "managers and my (or our) interests and priorities do not align" rather than being condescending. I couldn't agree more that it's not ideal for a software engineer.
- SupremumLimit 13y agoSo you're equating "not a fun place for a software engineer" with "managed by idiots"? That's a rather strange attitude, wouldn't you think? I often see this attitude from engineers, and although I am one as well, I always find it puzzling. There's a lot that can be said about bureaucracies, bad management, and lack of innovation. But the world doesn't revolve around writing cool software, and non-engineers aren't all idiots. It's a bit more complicated than that.
- kamaal 13y agoNo, share holders care about share prices. Which in big part in large companies comes from existing products/services + incremental work. Big leaps come from acquisitions. You need managers to keep the status quo going. Come in, run affairs as usual and leave.
- dtby 13y agoHi. Continuing to spread your ignorance is greatly welcomed.
- ArekDymalski 13y agoEvery time (~5/month) I hear the "managers are idiots" rant I start to wonder, how is it possible that all the smart people: 1. aren't managers. 2. aren't able to convince the "idiots". I'm also curious why smart people become idiots when they're promoted. Come on. Managing is hard and definitely looks different depending on your position. To make it even more "funny" I can tell you that "employees are idiots" is a frequent manager's rant too.
- k__ 13y agoMost managers are good talkers. Most smart people aren't.
- ArekDymalski 13y agoBeing unable to give a good talk is quite unusual definition of smartness:) But I can see where are you coming from. Indeed that analytical type of smartness which is so useful for engineers often correlates with introversion. Which doesn't help when it comes to dealing with people, promoting self and building your position in the company.
- hkmurakami 13y agoyup, let's replace "smart" with technically competent/proficient :)
- k__ 13y agoProbably. There are many smart people who are good talkers. But I only know them from the Internet. The top scientists and engineers of our time. The leaders of the biggest companies are often engineers themself. But they don't make the mass of smart people. It seems like many managers have a network of mighty people, which just lets them float over the real world. They get fired here and a new job (as good paid manager!!) somewhere else in no time.
- seivan 13y agoNo one said it isn't hard to manage or managers in general are idiots. I was just clarifying that the decline of decent software practices isn't a scale issue, it's management issues. That tends to be because of non-technical managers/superiors.
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- RivieraKid 13y agoYes, it really seems that at least some of them are idiots, otherwise their Android customization (TouchWiz) wouldn't be as tasteless and shitty. With their resources, they could do so many amazing things, but they seem to completely lack creativity.
- mikecane 13y ago>>>With their resources, they could do so many amazing things, but they seem to completely lack creativity. They brought Multi-View to Android. I wish Android had that baked in.
- RivieraKid 13y agoAndroid should have a good window manager, not just something like MultiView. MW causes problems with one of my apps and I don't have plan to fix it, my apps target Android, not Android customizations like TouchWiz.
- fakeer 13y ago>>Companies like Samsung, others and etc are managed by idiots. Spot on! Been there, seen that, met them and lunched with them.