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Great.. here I am all ready to try switching to zsh and now here's a new fish.. Which to go for..?

krat0sprakhar 13y ago
If you're just jumping off bash and don't have a long .zshrc with aliases (which might make the migration a bit painful), then without a doubt try fish!
porker 13y ago
My situation exactly oneandoneis2! I've used Bash for 12 years, tried zsh for the last few months and not really noticed the difference tbh. Will see if fish gives me an 'aha' moment
mathrawka 13y ago
I used to use fish for a long time... eventually I switched back to zsh because of too many incompatibilities with running shell scripts.
- haarts 13y ago
  Couldn't you just switch shell in the (presumably) rare case when you want to run a bash shell script?
  - omaranto 13y ago
    No need, just run bash with the script: bash script-name. Or better yet, start the script with #!/bin/bash
- omaranto 13y ago
  Several purple have mentioned 'incompatibilities' and I don't understand the problem: sure fish syntax is different and fish cannot be used to run a sh script, so just don't try to run sh scripts with fish. Every script I've run across starts with #!/bin/sh and I can use it from fish with no difficulty (it starts up a sh). The only issue I had is that Vim assumes that your shell is sh compatible, so I put a set shell=sh in my .vimrc and now all the shell stuff in vim runs fine. What problems did you mean?
  - jcampbell1 13y ago
    For me, it is just random stuff is broken. One example is `git mergetool` doesn't work in fish. I have no idea why that would be the case.
    - omaranto 13y ago
      I guess the vim issue I ran into (that I solved by telling vim to use sh: set shell=sh), is the same sort of problem as the 'git mergetool' problem you mention.
  - acjohnson55 13y ago
    Speaking for myself, there are a number of times when I have to source scripts from bash to get certain functionality I like. Most notably, when using virtualenv.
    - nagisa 13y ago
      Virtualenv puts an activate.fish script into ./bin/ too.
    - mvaliente2001 13y ago
      virtualenv has support for fish: . bin/activate.fish
    - SnowLprd 13y ago
      As nagisa said, you can simply use: . bin/activate.fish Even better is Virtualfish, which I've been using and contributing to very happily: https://github.com/adambrenecki/virtualfish https://github.com/adambrenecki/virtualfish
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mjs 13y ago
I've "skipped" zsh--I tried it a few times, but it didn't seem enough better than bash for it to be worth learning, converting all my scripts, and so on. fish does seem worth the effort, and in fact many of my bash scripts and configuration settings are now unnecessary. FWIW my (rapidly changing) fish configuration: https://github.com/ithinkihaveacat/dotfiles/tree/master/fish https://github.com/ithinkihaveacat/dotfiles/tree/master/fish
- nagisa 13y ago
  You likely want to move your environment variables to ~/.pam_environment instead of setting them in fish configuration.
  - mjs 13y ago
    Is ~/.pam_environment that cross platform? I'm trying to use the same config on Linux and OS X.
- dpacmittal 13y ago
  Most of the bash scripts wouldn't need converting at all. zsh, IMO, is a solid drop-in replacement for bash.

If you're just jumping off bash and don't have a long .zshrc with aliases (which might make the migration a bit painful), then without a doubt try fish!

porker 13y ago

My situation exactly oneandoneis2! I've used Bash for 12 years, tried zsh for the last few months and not really noticed the difference tbh. Will see if fish gives me an 'aha' moment

mathrawka 13y ago

I used to use fish for a long time... eventually I switched back to zsh because of too many incompatibilities with running shell scripts.

haarts 13y ago
Couldn't you just switch shell in the (presumably) rare case when you want to run a bash shell script?
- omaranto 13y ago
  No need, just run bash with the script: bash script-name. Or better yet, start the script with #!/bin/bash
omaranto 13y ago
Several purple have mentioned 'incompatibilities' and I don't understand the problem: sure fish syntax is different and fish cannot be used to run a sh script, so just don't try to run sh scripts with fish. Every script I've run across starts with #!/bin/sh and I can use it from fish with no difficulty (it starts up a sh). The only issue I had is that Vim assumes that your shell is sh compatible, so I put a set shell=sh in my .vimrc and now all the shell stuff in vim runs fine. What problems did you mean?
- jcampbell1 13y ago
  For me, it is just random stuff is broken. One example is `git mergetool` doesn't work in fish. I have no idea why that would be the case.
  - omaranto 13y ago
    I guess the vim issue I ran into (that I solved by telling vim to use sh: set shell=sh), is the same sort of problem as the 'git mergetool' problem you mention.
- acjohnson55 13y ago
  Speaking for myself, there are a number of times when I have to source scripts from bash to get certain functionality I like. Most notably, when using virtualenv.
  - nagisa 13y ago
    Virtualenv puts an activate.fish script into ./bin/ too.
  - mvaliente2001 13y ago
    virtualenv has support for fish: . bin/activate.fish
  - SnowLprd 13y ago
    As nagisa said, you can simply use: . bin/activate.fish Even better is Virtualfish, which I've been using and contributing to very happily: https://github.com/adambrenecki/virtualfish https://github.com/adambrenecki/virtualfish

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mjs 13y ago

I've "skipped" zsh--I tried it a few times, but it didn't seem enough better than bash for it to be worth learning, converting all my scripts, and so on. fish does seem worth the effort, and in fact many of my bash scripts and configuration settings are now unnecessary. FWIW my (rapidly changing) fish configuration: https://github.com/ithinkihaveacat/dotfiles/tree/master/fish https://github.com/ithinkihaveacat/dotfiles/tree/master/fish

nagisa 13y ago
You likely want to move your environment variables to ~/.pam_environment instead of setting them in fish configuration.
- mjs 13y ago
  Is ~/.pam_environment that cross platform? I'm trying to use the same config on Linux and OS X.
dpacmittal 13y ago
Most of the bash scripts wouldn't need converting at all. zsh, IMO, is a solid drop-in replacement for bash.