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Kim loved to pose with automatic weapons and is a felon, the only thing NZ had to apologize for in regards to how they handled the raid was not realizing he is

Kim loved to pose with automatic weapons and is a felon, the only thing NZ had to apologize for in regards to how they handled the raid was not realizing he is a clown. Edit: No one seems to be arguing that he is not a clown, but I can't blame them as that is a hard argument to make.

bd_at_rivenhill 13y ago
This is no indication that he would violently resist arrest, which is the only reasonable justification for these types of raids. Military tactics should be confined to the cases where there is a risk of violence; intimidation should not be a part of the process of serving an arrest warrant in the average case.
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will_brown 13y ago
I do not know enough about German law vis-a-vis NZ law and the right to carry weapons, to comment. KIM may have been convicted, but I do not know if he is a "Felon" or what that even means under German law, because it may not be the same as the US legal term felon. I do not think NZ apologized for not knowing KIM was a clown, but they apologized for the unnecessary use of force, what I am saying is the US (even me) would have justified this kind of use of force not thinking twice, but NZ has a different attitude where police do not normally carry fire arms1, much less use military assault weapons for exercising warrants, especially for non-violent crimes despite how many pictures the suspect took with automatic weapons. "Even the police officer says there has never been a raid like this before in New Zealand."2 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police#Weapons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police#Weapons 2. http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/2/7/155744/7370/crimenews/NZ-Police-Address-Use-of-Special-Tactics-Group-in-Kim-DotCom-Raid http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/2/7/155744/7370/crimenews...
- youngerdryas 13y ago
  Yes it was embarrassing for NZ to be scared of this joker.

bd_at_rivenhill 13y ago

This is no indication that he would violently resist arrest, which is the only reasonable justification for these types of raids. Military tactics should be confined to the cases where there is a risk of violence; intimidation should not be a part of the process of serving an arrest warrant in the average case.

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will_brown 13y ago

I do not know enough about German law vis-a-vis NZ law and the right to carry weapons, to comment. KIM may have been convicted, but I do not know if he is a "Felon" or what that even means under German law, because it may not be the same as the US legal term felon. I do not think NZ apologized for not knowing KIM was a clown, but they apologized for the unnecessary use of force, what I am saying is the US (even me) would have justified this kind of use of force not thinking twice, but NZ has a different attitude where police do not normally carry fire arms1, much less use military assault weapons for exercising warrants, especially for non-violent crimes despite how many pictures the suspect took with automatic weapons. "Even the police officer says there has never been a raid like this before in New Zealand."2 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police#Weapons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police#Weapons 2. http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/2/7/155744/7370/crimenews/NZ-Police-Address-Use-of-Special-Tactics-Group-in-Kim-DotCom-Raid http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/2/7/155744/7370/crimenews...

youngerdryas 13y ago
Yes it was embarrassing for NZ to be scared of this joker.