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Interested in the reasons behind the 'no brainer' move. We're in France, and the regime for startups, with innovation tax cuts and other security nets is pretty

by pilooch 13y ago

Interested in the reasons behind the 'no brainer' move. We're in France, and the regime for startups, with innovation tax cuts and other security nets is pretty favorable. The engineers are pretty good too!

corford 13y ago
YMMV but for my specific setup, it was just easier on all fronts. My French isn't terrible (my partner is French) but English is my mother tongue and what I'm most comfortable in (especially for business stuff). It's also much easier to get quick, good access to startup focussed legal advice. Then there's the SEIS scheme which is very attractive if I run out of runway after launching and need to look at additional seed funding. Company incorporation is easy and inexpensive. Rent is cheap if you aren't in the South East (and I'm not locked in to a long contract as is standard in France). If my startup turns out to be successful and I need to employ people it's much easier and more cost effective to do this in the UK than in France. And the list goes on. I'm currently under the Auto-Entrepreneur scheme here and frankly it's a bordel :) I'd like to kill URSAFF sometimes... Edit: I should also say that I'm out in the sticks in the Limousin region. I imagine things are a bit better in Paris. Where are you guys based?
- pilooch 13y ago
  haha, everyone would like to kill URSAFF, but they are your life after your biological CPU has turned into a good old Pentium :) And yes Limousin, may not be your startup hub of choice, but after all, it is probably cheaper than everywhere else. Probably good enough while you are in the coding phase, not that good afterwards for sure. The language problem is real though, and I understand your move much better now. We're in Toulouse, some other startups I know are in Paris. Ping me if you ever come down South (everything above Bordeaux is Great far 'beyond the Wall' North for us :) ).
  - corford 13y ago
    Haha je connais bien "la ligne de Bordeaux"... My partner is Catalan and we lived near Perpignan for 3 years before moving here - she thinks of the Limousin as another country! Would be great to meet up for a beer/wine/ricard and talk startups the next time I'm in the South. I can't see your email but mine is in my profile.

by pilooch 13y ago

corford 13y ago

YMMV but for my specific setup, it was just easier on all fronts. My French isn't terrible (my partner is French) but English is my mother tongue and what I'm most comfortable in (especially for business stuff). It's also much easier to get quick, good access to startup focussed legal advice. Then there's the SEIS scheme which is very attractive if I run out of runway after launching and need to look at additional seed funding. Company incorporation is easy and inexpensive. Rent is cheap if you aren't in the South East (and I'm not locked in to a long contract as is standard in France). If my startup turns out to be successful and I need to employ people it's much easier and more cost effective to do this in the UK than in France. And the list goes on. I'm currently under the Auto-Entrepreneur scheme here and frankly it's a bordel :) I'd like to kill URSAFF sometimes... Edit: I should also say that I'm out in the sticks in the Limousin region. I imagine things are a bit better in Paris. Where are you guys based?

pilooch 13y ago
haha, everyone would like to kill URSAFF, but they are your life after your biological CPU has turned into a good old Pentium :) And yes Limousin, may not be your startup hub of choice, but after all, it is probably cheaper than everywhere else. Probably good enough while you are in the coding phase, not that good afterwards for sure. The language problem is real though, and I understand your move much better now. We're in Toulouse, some other startups I know are in Paris. Ping me if you ever come down South (everything above Bordeaux is Great far 'beyond the Wall' North for us :) ).
- corford 13y ago
  Haha je connais bien "la ligne de Bordeaux"... My partner is Catalan and we lived near Perpignan for 3 years before moving here - she thinks of the Limousin as another country! Would be great to meet up for a beer/wine/ricard and talk startups the next time I'm in the South. I can't see your email but mine is in my profile.