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so the real reason why prostitutes use linked in isn't to FIND new clients or to create networks of whores on linked in -- it's to verify that their clients are

by ezl 13y ago

so the real reason why prostitutes use linked in isn't to FIND new clients or to create networks of whores on linked in -- it's to verify that their clients aren't cops. in a lot of places, prostitution is illegal, and clients and "service providers" alike are worried about the repercussions of getting caught. some are regular people who are trying to make money, or like their side alter ego, but don't particularly want their friends or family to find out. getting busted is scary for both parties. in order to protect themselves, they resort to ID verifications of sorts and a variety of other practices to help them increase the odds that the person they're spending their time with is not an officer of the law. a busy linked in profile, business cards, and a drivers license that all point to the same person is a pretty good sign that that person ACTUALLY has the job they claim and they're not a cop. source: i love hookers.

adamors 13y ago
> whores Can we at least call them prostitues if sex worker is too PC for HN?
- loup-vaillant 13y ago
  Funny, I didn't notice the negative connotation here. But maybe that's because of sentences I heard lately: "Hey, what's the problem with being a fucking whore?" (Street whore¹ in Dexter –forgot which episode.) "I have a lot of respect for whores." (witness in a radio documentary —quite moving, by the way.) [1] I swear I mean no disrespect.
- deleted 13y ago
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- n0mad01 13y ago
  thou shalt call things as they are, everything else is political correctness bingo -- gandhi
- kbenson 13y ago
  I wonder what they call themselves, and what they would be comfortable with if it wasn't used in a derogatory way. I can imagine if I a few co-workers worked at a horrible oppressing conglomerate, perhaps Veridian Dynamics, and we referred to ourselves as "drones" to denote our feelings, if management said we were no longer allowed to use this term, it would not be uplifting, it would be yet another instance of management oppression by taking away another form of expression. This example is, of course, extremely contrived, and I can see positives in removing a term from popular use as it may shift attitudes, but I wonder how that compares with the negatives to the group itself.
jiggy2011 13y ago
So there are people who are paid by the government to have sex with hookers and then arrest them?
- ezl 13y ago
  best job ever. just kidding. obviously, no law enforcement officer has ever engaged in sexual activity with a sex worker. that's just historical fact. No actual sex has to happen for a crime to be committed. Solicitation is a crime. just agreeing to submit or receive payment in exchange for sexual activity is the crime. So law enforcement officers can set up situations where they get sex workers to agree to do things in exchange for payment, then they're busted. Confirmation through linkedin, place of business, business cards, referrals, calling clients' mothers, etc can be used to mitigate the risk that their counterparty is a cop. http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/solicitation-of-prostitution-lawyers.html http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/solicitation-o...
  - dalore 13y ago
    Sarcasm is difficult to convey over text.
    - dsr_ 13y ago
      Especially since a quick Google will confirm that police officers often end up taking an unexpected retirement after complaints that they didn't pay for their sex. For example, http://boston.com/metrodesk/2013/03/29/boston-detective-arrested-lynn-prostitution-sting/NE0OEg2qyZbaUkTUd0dZlO/story.html http://boston.com/metrodesk/2013/03/29/boston-detective-arre...
    - ChuckMcM 13y ago
      Yes it is, there was a great piece in the Sunnyvale Sun (a local paper) about the months and months the Public Safety department spent investigating a local club to determine if there was any illegal activity going on. I thought the reporter perfectly walked the line between 'serious' and 'yeah right.'
larrys 13y ago
"a busy linked in profile, business cards, and a drivers license that all point to the same person is a pretty good sign that that person ACTUALLY has the job they claim and they're not a cop." It would seem almost trivial to create a believable linkedin profile that could fool anybody. I get linkedin requests all the time from people who I don't know who are trolling to build up a profile. And "business cards"?
- ezl 13y ago
  i don't think anyone is under the delusion that it is foolproof. Obviously, cops can fake all that stuff. But if you're just an average sex worker, the law probably doesn't have it out specifically for you, and it's a lot lower hanging fruit to just go for the careless sex workers who don't even verify. The amount of time/effort they would have to spend (while not necessarily a lot) wouldn't be justified by the probably non-existent increase in the total busts, unless they had an axe to grind against a specific provider for some reason. source: i moonlight as a male prostitute. and i disappoint a lot of women.
  - loup-vaillant 13y ago
    Wait a minute: does the lack of quotes after "source:" mean you are speaking from personal experience? (Genuine question. At first, I though you were citing the title of some book.)
    - gutnor 13y ago
      I guess a clue is that male prostitute generally have male client, not female.
  - larrys 13y ago
    "wouldn't be justified by the probably non-existent increase in the total busts" Interesting thought. Almost similar to why cops don't do a better job of trapper speeders. And why they don't even catch speeders they sometimes just lurk in plain site to slow down traffic.
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cheez 13y ago
> source: i love hookers. Describe how you got here!
- ezl 13y ago
  was being facetious on both "source" entries, though i do know/have known both escorts (female) and people who have seen escorts (male)

by ezl 13y ago

adamors 13y ago

> whores Can we at least call them prostitues if sex worker is too PC for HN?

loup-vaillant 13y ago
Funny, I didn't notice the negative connotation here. But maybe that's because of sentences I heard lately: "Hey, what's the problem with being a fucking whore?" (Street whore¹ in Dexter –forgot which episode.) "I have a lot of respect for whores." (witness in a radio documentary —quite moving, by the way.) [1] I swear I mean no disrespect.
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n0mad01 13y ago
thou shalt call things as they are, everything else is political correctness bingo -- gandhi
kbenson 13y ago
I wonder what they call themselves, and what they would be comfortable with if it wasn't used in a derogatory way. I can imagine if I a few co-workers worked at a horrible oppressing conglomerate, perhaps Veridian Dynamics, and we referred to ourselves as "drones" to denote our feelings, if management said we were no longer allowed to use this term, it would not be uplifting, it would be yet another instance of management oppression by taking away another form of expression. This example is, of course, extremely contrived, and I can see positives in removing a term from popular use as it may shift attitudes, but I wonder how that compares with the negatives to the group itself.

jiggy2011 13y ago

So there are people who are paid by the government to have sex with hookers and then arrest them?

ezl 13y ago
best job ever. just kidding. obviously, no law enforcement officer has ever engaged in sexual activity with a sex worker. that's just historical fact. No actual sex has to happen for a crime to be committed. Solicitation is a crime. just agreeing to submit or receive payment in exchange for sexual activity is the crime. So law enforcement officers can set up situations where they get sex workers to agree to do things in exchange for payment, then they're busted. Confirmation through linkedin, place of business, business cards, referrals, calling clients' mothers, etc can be used to mitigate the risk that their counterparty is a cop. http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/solicitation-of-prostitution-lawyers.html http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/solicitation-o...
- dalore 13y ago
  Sarcasm is difficult to convey over text.
  - dsr_ 13y ago
    Especially since a quick Google will confirm that police officers often end up taking an unexpected retirement after complaints that they didn't pay for their sex. For example, http://boston.com/metrodesk/2013/03/29/boston-detective-arrested-lynn-prostitution-sting/NE0OEg2qyZbaUkTUd0dZlO/story.html http://boston.com/metrodesk/2013/03/29/boston-detective-arre...
  - ChuckMcM 13y ago
    Yes it is, there was a great piece in the Sunnyvale Sun (a local paper) about the months and months the Public Safety department spent investigating a local club to determine if there was any illegal activity going on. I thought the reporter perfectly walked the line between 'serious' and 'yeah right.'

larrys 13y ago

"a busy linked in profile, business cards, and a drivers license that all point to the same person is a pretty good sign that that person ACTUALLY has the job they claim and they're not a cop." It would seem almost trivial to create a believable linkedin profile that could fool anybody. I get linkedin requests all the time from people who I don't know who are trolling to build up a profile. And "business cards"?

ezl 13y ago
i don't think anyone is under the delusion that it is foolproof. Obviously, cops can fake all that stuff. But if you're just an average sex worker, the law probably doesn't have it out specifically for you, and it's a lot lower hanging fruit to just go for the careless sex workers who don't even verify. The amount of time/effort they would have to spend (while not necessarily a lot) wouldn't be justified by the probably non-existent increase in the total busts, unless they had an axe to grind against a specific provider for some reason. source: i moonlight as a male prostitute. and i disappoint a lot of women.
- loup-vaillant 13y ago
  Wait a minute: does the lack of quotes after "source:" mean you are speaking from personal experience? (Genuine question. At first, I though you were citing the title of some book.)
  - gutnor 13y ago
    I guess a clue is that male prostitute generally have male client, not female.
- larrys 13y ago
  "wouldn't be justified by the probably non-existent increase in the total busts" Interesting thought. Almost similar to why cops don't do a better job of trapper speeders. And why they don't even catch speeders they sometimes just lurk in plain site to slow down traffic.
- deleted 13y ago

cheez 13y ago

> source: i love hookers. Describe how you got here!

ezl 13y ago
was being facetious on both "source" entries, though i do know/have known both escorts (female) and people who have seen escorts (male)