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> That sounds unbelievable It's unbelievable because it's not true. They're dropping XMPP federation, which outlook.com never used anyway. What outlook.com ha

by codeka 13y ago

> That sounds unbelievable It's unbelievable because it's not true. They're dropping XMPP federation, which outlook.com never used anyway. What outlook.com has done is they've added an XMPP client that lets you connect to Google's servers in order to send chat messages to GTalk users. That's still going to work. Also note that what Microsoft have done is allow outlook.com users to communicate with GTalk users, but not the other way around.

recoiledsnake 13y ago
This thread says otherwise. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714681 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714681
- untog 13y ago
  That thread of unsourced speculation, you mean?
  - rst 13y ago
    It's sourced. That's a reply to a thread based here, which starts by quoting email from Google which says point blank that "the new [hangouts] service will not support XMPP". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557
    - mortehu 13y ago
      From the post you linked: > Your users may use any chat client that supports XMPP. XMPP clients will continue to work as usual with the App Engine XMPP service. > Note that the changes discussed above have no impact on non-Google XMPP clients
      - rst 13y ago
        But not with the new Hangouts service, which was announced to great ballyhoo in the Google I/O keynote yesterday as their new, general-use chat system for the vast bulk of their userbase. Which is what this whole conversation is about.
      - cooldeal 13y ago
        Ugh, and someone else states that XMPP will be disabled for users who chose to upgrade to hangouts. Why this utter confusion over a simple thing after a whole three hour keynote yesterday and today no one seems to have a clue? Communication fail, if you ask me. Color me skeptical, but there was similar confusion when SMS search stopped working suddenly,and then people realized Google killed it. XMPP support may stay, but I am not going to bet more than 2 bucks on it.
sp332 13y ago
They dropped XMPP federation a couple of months ago. The new move is away from XMPP entirely. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557
- uxp 13y ago
  They also restored it only a month ago, claiming they temporarily had to disable it to counter a large spam issue. http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federated-instant-messaging http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federate...

by codeka 13y ago

recoiledsnake 13y ago

This thread says otherwise. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714681 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714681

untog 13y ago
That thread of unsourced speculation, you mean?
- rst 13y ago
  It's sourced. That's a reply to a thread based here, which starts by quoting email from Google which says point blank that "the new [hangouts] service will not support XMPP". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557
  - mortehu 13y ago
    From the post you linked: > Your users may use any chat client that supports XMPP. XMPP clients will continue to work as usual with the App Engine XMPP service. > Note that the changes discussed above have no impact on non-Google XMPP clients
    - rst 13y ago
      But not with the new Hangouts service, which was announced to great ballyhoo in the Google I/O keynote yesterday as their new, general-use chat system for the vast bulk of their userbase. Which is what this whole conversation is about.
    - cooldeal 13y ago
      Ugh, and someone else states that XMPP will be disabled for users who chose to upgrade to hangouts. Why this utter confusion over a simple thing after a whole three hour keynote yesterday and today no one seems to have a clue? Communication fail, if you ask me. Color me skeptical, but there was similar confusion when SMS search stopped working suddenly,and then people realized Google killed it. XMPP support may stay, but I am not going to bet more than 2 bucks on it.

sp332 13y ago

They dropped XMPP federation a couple of months ago. The new move is away from XMPP entirely. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5714557

uxp 13y ago
They also restored it only a month ago, claiming they temporarily had to disable it to counter a large spam issue. http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federated-instant-messaging http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federate...