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> My code is much better architected, much more reusable, cleaner, and, if you're going to be using it in the long-term, it's going to be much, much cheaper. I

> My code is much better architected, much more reusable, cleaner, and, if you're going to be using it in the long-term, it's going to be much, much cheaper. I admire your humility.

StavrosK 13y ago
Oh, sorry. Let me rephrase: > I don't know about your or your friends' coding skills, so I can't comment. I see a huge difference in the code my friends write in their language of proficiency versus code I write in the same language (I am mainly a scientist, so my code tends to be ad-hoc modelling to get to a specific point, then discarded). > Their code is much better architected, much more reusable, cleaner, and, if you're going to be using it in the long-term, it's going to be much, much cheaper. Not to sound arrogant, but they sometimes marvel at how easy it is to add more features or change features just because the code was written properly the first time around. > This is what the client pays for, the years of experience that have taught them how to write clean, maintainable and extensible code. If you're going to throw the code away after your MVP, you obviously shouldn't care if the code is maintainable, but code written by inexperienced and experienced developers is nowhere near similar. Better now?
- wfunction 13y ago
  > Not to sound arrogant, but they sometimes marvel ... Now it doesn't make sense.
- precisioncoder 13y ago
  I agree with you that a trained developer does produce higher quality code and even if more expensive does end up being better in the long run. However in terms of judging the quality of your own work it's important to keep in mind that everyone thinks they're above average. A random search found this related article. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57568186/everyone-thinks-they-are-above-average/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57568186/everyone-thinks...
zuppy 13y ago
Why should he be humble? There can be a huge difference in the quality of the work produced by different people. Knowing your real value is nothing to be ashamed of.

> My code is much better architected, much more reusable, cleaner, and, if you're going to be using it in the long-term, it's going to be much, much cheaper. I admire your humility.

StavrosK 13y ago

Oh, sorry. Let me rephrase: > I don't know about your or your friends' coding skills, so I can't comment. I see a huge difference in the code my friends write in their language of proficiency versus code I write in the same language (I am mainly a scientist, so my code tends to be ad-hoc modelling to get to a specific point, then discarded). > Their code is much better architected, much more reusable, cleaner, and, if you're going to be using it in the long-term, it's going to be much, much cheaper. Not to sound arrogant, but they sometimes marvel at how easy it is to add more features or change features just because the code was written properly the first time around. > This is what the client pays for, the years of experience that have taught them how to write clean, maintainable and extensible code. If you're going to throw the code away after your MVP, you obviously shouldn't care if the code is maintainable, but code written by inexperienced and experienced developers is nowhere near similar. Better now?

wfunction 13y ago
> Not to sound arrogant, but they sometimes marvel ... Now it doesn't make sense.
precisioncoder 13y ago
I agree with you that a trained developer does produce higher quality code and even if more expensive does end up being better in the long run. However in terms of judging the quality of your own work it's important to keep in mind that everyone thinks they're above average. A random search found this related article. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57568186/everyone-thinks-they-are-above-average/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57568186/everyone-thinks...

zuppy 13y ago

Why should he be humble? There can be a huge difference in the quality of the work produced by different people. Knowing your real value is nothing to be ashamed of.