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Same reason the vast majority of devs do not make a WP app, or release a crappy version 2 years later.

by lawdawg 13y ago

CloudNine 13y ago
Even Vimeo can make a decent Windows Phone app and a Windows 8 app and Youtube with a order of magnitude more revenue cannot? If you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell. Give me a break, Google is doing this to hurt the adoption of Windows Phone.
- lawdawg 13y ago
  > Google is doing this to hurt the adoption of Windows Phone. If you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell ... after I stop laughing.
  - CloudNine 13y ago
    I'll be laughing longer at you at simplistically believing Google's lame excuse for the lack of a WP app that so many people are using Windows Phone that it's affecting Youtube's ad revenue because of not showing ads to them, but at the same time it's not worth monetizing the very same eyeballs by making an official YouTube app and showing ads to the Windows Phone audience.
  - lawdawg 13y ago
    @CloudNine WP users can access YouTube videos, the only difference is whether its through an official app or their web browser. So yes, it does matter a lot to them that these eyes are no longer seeing ads that they previously would have. Google has obviously determined that WPs tiny marketshare isn't enough to justify creating a native app when the browser will work decently enough. Thinking otherwise is just ... idiotic. Yes, Google is making a big deal out of this when apps like MetroTube already do the same thing. The difference here is its Microsoft, a huge company who has gone out of its way to sling shit on Google, instead of 2 dudes from NZ.
    - CloudNine 13y ago
      >So yes, it does matter a lot to them that these eyes are no longer seeing ads that they previously would have Then why don't they give access to the Youtube videos and ads API to Microsoft? Microsoft has stated that they're happy to add Google's ads if given access. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889
      - beagle3 13y ago
        I'm sure that Google will be happy to do that when Microsoft starts being nice to them - e.g., not extorting money from every Android phone maker. It's taken more than 20 years, but Microsoft is finally reaping the fruits of their bullying.
        ankitml 13y ago
        an eye for an eye doesnt make the world better my friend. Android wars are making users pay more and this youtube war is also making users suffer.
        beagle3 13y ago
        I disagree that google rolling over and let Microsoft continue their abuse and bad citizenry would have been a better outcome (except for Microsoft and WP8 owners, of course) An eye for an eye is a bit extreme, but fear of retaliation is an important component of balanced societies; see e.g. The cold war or the Stanford prison experiment. It's time Microsoft start behaving less like.a psychopath bully and more like a member of society.
      - rbanffy 13y ago
        > Then why don't they give access to the Youtube videos and ads API to Microsoft? http://venturebeat.com/2012/08/28/youtube-xbox-app/ http://venturebeat.com/2012/08/28/youtube-xbox-app/ I guess they can forward the original e-mail to the WP devs...
- myko 13y ago
  I'm guessing if Microsoft removed the 'download video' button from their YouTube app - directly violating YouTube's policies - Google wouldn't be so hard lined about this.

Same reason the vast majority of devs do not make a WP app, or release a crappy version 2 years later.

by lawdawg 13y ago

Same reason the vast majority of devs do not make a WP app, or release a crappy version 2 years later.

Even Vimeo can make a decent Windows Phone app and a Windows 8 app and Youtube with a order of magnitude more revenue cannot? If you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell. Give me a break, Google is doing this to hurt the adoption of Windows Phone.

lawdawg 13y ago
> Google is doing this to hurt the adoption of Windows Phone. If you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell ... after I stop laughing.
- CloudNine 13y ago
  I'll be laughing longer at you at simplistically believing Google's lame excuse for the lack of a WP app that so many people are using Windows Phone that it's affecting Youtube's ad revenue because of not showing ads to them, but at the same time it's not worth monetizing the very same eyeballs by making an official YouTube app and showing ads to the Windows Phone audience.
- lawdawg 13y ago
  @CloudNine WP users can access YouTube videos, the only difference is whether its through an official app or their web browser. So yes, it does matter a lot to them that these eyes are no longer seeing ads that they previously would have. Google has obviously determined that WPs tiny marketshare isn't enough to justify creating a native app when the browser will work decently enough. Thinking otherwise is just ... idiotic. Yes, Google is making a big deal out of this when apps like MetroTube already do the same thing. The difference here is its Microsoft, a huge company who has gone out of its way to sling shit on Google, instead of 2 dudes from NZ.
  - CloudNine 13y ago
    >So yes, it does matter a lot to them that these eyes are no longer seeing ads that they previously would have Then why don't they give access to the Youtube videos and ads API to Microsoft? Microsoft has stated that they're happy to add Google's ads if given access. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889
    - beagle3 13y ago
      I'm sure that Google will be happy to do that when Microsoft starts being nice to them - e.g., not extorting money from every Android phone maker. It's taken more than 20 years, but Microsoft is finally reaping the fruits of their bullying.
      - ankitml 13y ago
        an eye for an eye doesnt make the world better my friend. Android wars are making users pay more and this youtube war is also making users suffer.
        beagle3 13y ago
        I disagree that google rolling over and let Microsoft continue their abuse and bad citizenry would have been a better outcome (except for Microsoft and WP8 owners, of course) An eye for an eye is a bit extreme, but fear of retaliation is an important component of balanced societies; see e.g. The cold war or the Stanford prison experiment. It's time Microsoft start behaving less like.a psychopath bully and more like a member of society.
    - rbanffy 13y ago
      > Then why don't they give access to the Youtube videos and ads API to Microsoft? http://venturebeat.com/2012/08/28/youtube-xbox-app/ http://venturebeat.com/2012/08/28/youtube-xbox-app/ I guess they can forward the original e-mail to the WP devs...
myko 13y ago
I'm guessing if Microsoft removed the 'download video' button from their YouTube app - directly violating YouTube's policies - Google wouldn't be so hard lined about this.