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I think we as a whole got a bit overboard with the theory "social networking is the future and whoever controls that, will control the internets" Facebook is a

by neebz 13y ago

I think we as a whole got a bit overboard with the theory "social networking is the future and whoever controls that, will control the internets" Facebook is a very good utility but it's not everything. The social data might be good for advertisers but we have yet to see a single study where people ditched usual advertising streams for it. And there hasn't been a single innovative/exciting feature from Facebook since the News feed. It just seems they are trying to be something which they are not. They are struggling at both ends. Can't create a good enough advertising platform nor improve the product from user perspective.

emehrkay 13y ago
You don't think that graph search is innovative?
- mtgx 13y ago
  Who uses that?
  - emehrkay 13y ago
    Does innovation require usage?
    - CaptainZapp 13y ago
      I'd argue that: yes. Or more precisely: it either requires usage, or, at the very least: it needs to be a stepping stone for further innovation, which, at the end of the day is used.
      - emehrkay 13y ago
        I get what you're saying. I like the graph search because it offers regular people a new way to think about data and searching -- a way to think about it in a more natural way. I built an example implementation in python a few months ago: https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph
- uptown 13y ago
  I still haven't been granted access despite signing up right as the beta sign-up form was available, but no - not really. It's an SQL query with some natural-language processing used to build the query. Neat? Maybe. Innovative? I see it as just another view on data that was already available to me through more-arduous means of searching.
  - emehrkay 13y ago
    Oh it isn't public (I don't use Facebook)? I recreated it with Neo4j and TornadoWeb for a presentation that I gave at a local Python meetup a few months ago. I found the idea around it very cool and i feel that it has a lot of potential to change the way we search/think about relationships. https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph/blob/master/slides.pdf https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph/blob/master/slides....
- gavinlynch 13y ago
  In a word: No.

by neebz 13y ago

emehrkay 13y ago

You don't think that graph search is innovative?

mtgx 13y ago
Who uses that?
- emehrkay 13y ago
  Does innovation require usage?
  - CaptainZapp 13y ago
    I'd argue that: yes. Or more precisely: it either requires usage, or, at the very least: it needs to be a stepping stone for further innovation, which, at the end of the day is used.
    - emehrkay 13y ago
      I get what you're saying. I like the graph search because it offers regular people a new way to think about data and searching -- a way to think about it in a more natural way. I built an example implementation in python a few months ago: https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph
uptown 13y ago
I still haven't been granted access despite signing up right as the beta sign-up form was available, but no - not really. It's an SQL query with some natural-language processing used to build the query. Neat? Maybe. Innovative? I see it as just another view on data that was already available to me through more-arduous means of searching.
- emehrkay 13y ago
  Oh it isn't public (I don't use Facebook)? I recreated it with Neo4j and TornadoWeb for a presentation that I gave at a local Python meetup a few months ago. I found the idea around it very cool and i feel that it has a lot of potential to change the way we search/think about relationships. https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph/blob/master/slides.pdf https://github.com/emehrkay/meetup-graph/blob/master/slides....
gavinlynch 13y ago
In a word: No.