"But don't get trapped working for a startup and kidding yourself that their success is your success" I hear this line a lot on HN and frankly, I have to call

"But don't get trapped working for a startup and kidding yourself that their success is your success" I hear this line a lot on HN and frankly, I have to call bullshit on it. A real startup (which I define as "a currently small business with large, untapped potential market") with a real business, (which I define as "make something you can sell to people for money"), is a great place to find work at with a real chance to make significant amount of money (which I define as, "I can take 1/2/3 years off to do whatever I like without worrying about paying the rent") in case of success. And the odds of that level of success are not bad if you're smart about choosing your company carefully. How do I know ? Personal experience on multiple occasions. (btw, note that my definition does not include "this website/mobile-app we hope will catch Marissa Meyer's eye for a quick $X0 Million flip.)