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To argue by analogy, are the (no doubt hundreds) of "clocks" listed on etsy that are no more than a cheap prebought movement mounted through a hole in a piece o

by fr0sty 13y ago

To argue by analogy, are the (no doubt hundreds) of "clocks" listed on etsy that are no more than a cheap prebought movement mounted through a hole in a piece of wood in violation of the same policy? What about the driftwood lamps and such which are just prebought components fished through holes someone drilled?

Zimahl 13y ago
To play devils advocate, the driftwood lamps are all unique pieces made with lighting parts that probably couldn't be made by an individual. A clockwork is outside the scope of individual construction as well.
- stedaniels 13y ago
  The driftwood wasn't made by the person, but by nature. You saying the clockwork is outside the scope of individual construction, but this guy is getting hammered for using a circuit board? Because yeah, those are so much easier to knock up compared to a clock mechanism... Any Tom, Dick or Harry, can drill a whole for a light fitting in some driftwood.
  - Zimahl 13y ago
    I said I was playing devils advocate but I guess I will continue that role. He's not getting hammered for using a circuit board, I highly doubt Etsy is concerned about that. What they are concerned about is whether or not the guy is doing the work on these. He hasn't shown enough for me to be able to say that he is putting them together. He has pictures of a workbench, some soldering equipment, some wood and other parts, and the finished product. How does this differ from a driftwood lamp or a clock with a ready-built clockwork? It's not just semantics. Obviously there are things that Etsy allows and things they don't but it's also the craftiness (is that a word?) of the project. I'll be honest that this guy's project doesn't seem very crafty, whether or not he's putting everything together there's nothing really crafty or unique about it. This doesn't take anything away from what it is or the demand for it, it just might not fit in as an Etsy business.

by fr0sty 13y ago

Zimahl 13y ago

To play devils advocate, the driftwood lamps are all unique pieces made with lighting parts that probably couldn't be made by an individual. A clockwork is outside the scope of individual construction as well.

stedaniels 13y ago
The driftwood wasn't made by the person, but by nature. You saying the clockwork is outside the scope of individual construction, but this guy is getting hammered for using a circuit board? Because yeah, those are so much easier to knock up compared to a clock mechanism... Any Tom, Dick or Harry, can drill a whole for a light fitting in some driftwood.
- Zimahl 13y ago
  I said I was playing devils advocate but I guess I will continue that role. He's not getting hammered for using a circuit board, I highly doubt Etsy is concerned about that. What they are concerned about is whether or not the guy is doing the work on these. He hasn't shown enough for me to be able to say that he is putting them together. He has pictures of a workbench, some soldering equipment, some wood and other parts, and the finished product. How does this differ from a driftwood lamp or a clock with a ready-built clockwork? It's not just semantics. Obviously there are things that Etsy allows and things they don't but it's also the craftiness (is that a word?) of the project. I'll be honest that this guy's project doesn't seem very crafty, whether or not he's putting everything together there's nothing really crafty or unique about it. This doesn't take anything away from what it is or the demand for it, it just might not fit in as an Etsy business.