If Eclipse is evidence that Java is good at GUIs, I shudder to think what the output of something bad at them must be like to use. edit: to give you a construc

If Eclipse is evidence that Java is good at GUIs, I shudder to think what the output of something bad at them must be like to use. edit: to give you a constructive response: Eclipse is an excellent illustration of how godawful Java is at GUIs. It chugs horribly on even high end hardware because of Java's interminable GC pauses getting in the way of interactive response times. It looks native nowhere, and somehow contrives to feel even more alien than it looks. It manifests platform dependent UI bugs, completely defeating every last shred of its claimed "write a GUI once, deploy it anywhere" advantages.