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I wonder what this means for the future of MySQL.

by pwim 18y ago

andr 18y ago
Oracle owns InnoDB and Sleepycat/BerkeleyDB, both of which are in active development. InnoDB is also MySQL's most popular storage engine. So I wouldn't fear for MySQL's future. It wasn't doing well in Sun anyways.
- briansmith 18y ago
  Now MySQL doesn't have to implement a new engine to replace InnoDB (their previous motivation for the new engine was to keep control of it away from Oracle).
  - Keyframe 18y ago
    And now they will have to implement a whole new company. Sigh, I want to feel optimistic about this buyout, but somehow I don't.
    - briansmith 18y ago
      Monty already left Sun last month to start his own fork of MySQL.
      - staunch 18y ago
        The Open Source golden parachute.
        briansmith 18y ago
        Let's wait and see if he actually makes any money before we call it "golden".
        jonknee 18y ago
        I think the billion dollar exit and then quick departure would be the referenced golden parachute.
      - pbz 18y ago
        OurSQL?
andrewf 18y ago
MySQL and Oracle excel in different areas. I would expect Oracle to halt any effort to grow MySQL towards Oracle's feature set. I suspect this is very bad news for Postgresql. Sun is a major backer, but that will likely end. Postgresql's target market already overlaps with the low-mid end of Oracle's, and Postgresql 8.x has been largely about scaling up.
- sethg 18y ago
  Wouldn't other hardware vendors be more interested in supporting PostgreSQL now? Before the acquisition, if you bought a big HP database server, HP had no reason to care which database software you ran on it. Now, HP would prefer that you not be directing your software-purchase money to one of HP's competitors.
  - bensummers 18y ago
    Amusingly, before they bought MySQL, Sun were the biggest PostgreSQL supporters. They still employ the key contributors!
    - neilc 18y ago
      Sun employes one member of the core team (Peter Eisentraut) and some other people who contribute patches, but that's it. http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/ http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/
      - neilc 18y ago
        And actually, I forgot that Peter E. left Sun a few weeks ago anyway: http://petereisentraut.blogspot.com/2009/03/sun-set-part-2.html http://petereisentraut.blogspot.com/2009/03/sun-set-part-2.h...
  - ja27 18y ago
    I'm thinking Oracle/Sun will eventually end up in HP's hands.
mattmcknight 18y ago
It would be really weird if the future for MySQL involved PL/SQL. I can definitely imagine a world where it's not exactly free anymore. Anyone at the MySQL conference today (April 20)?
- jon_dahl 18y ago
  I'm at MySQLConf. The Oracle deal is all I've heard talk of so far, and I don't expect that will change over the next few days.
neovive 18y ago
I would definitely be concerned about any future innovation of MySQL. Perhaps, it will get folded into Oracle's Express edition and then slowly phased out over time. Any advances that put MySql even remotely close to Oracle in terms of scalability are unlikely to occur.

I wonder what this means for the future of MySQL.

by pwim 18y ago

I wonder what this means for the future of MySQL.

andr 18y ago

Oracle owns InnoDB and Sleepycat/BerkeleyDB, both of which are in active development. InnoDB is also MySQL's most popular storage engine. So I wouldn't fear for MySQL's future. It wasn't doing well in Sun anyways.

briansmith 18y ago
Now MySQL doesn't have to implement a new engine to replace InnoDB (their previous motivation for the new engine was to keep control of it away from Oracle).
- Keyframe 18y ago
  And now they will have to implement a whole new company. Sigh, I want to feel optimistic about this buyout, but somehow I don't.
  - briansmith 18y ago
    Monty already left Sun last month to start his own fork of MySQL.
    - staunch 18y ago
      The Open Source golden parachute.
      - briansmith 18y ago
        Let's wait and see if he actually makes any money before we call it "golden".
        jonknee 18y ago
        I think the billion dollar exit and then quick departure would be the referenced golden parachute.
    - pbz 18y ago
      OurSQL?

andrewf 18y ago

MySQL and Oracle excel in different areas. I would expect Oracle to halt any effort to grow MySQL towards Oracle's feature set. I suspect this is very bad news for Postgresql. Sun is a major backer, but that will likely end. Postgresql's target market already overlaps with the low-mid end of Oracle's, and Postgresql 8.x has been largely about scaling up.

sethg 18y ago
Wouldn't other hardware vendors be more interested in supporting PostgreSQL now? Before the acquisition, if you bought a big HP database server, HP had no reason to care which database software you ran on it. Now, HP would prefer that you not be directing your software-purchase money to one of HP's competitors.
- bensummers 18y ago
  Amusingly, before they bought MySQL, Sun were the biggest PostgreSQL supporters. They still employ the key contributors!
  - neilc 18y ago
    Sun employes one member of the core team (Peter Eisentraut) and some other people who contribute patches, but that's it. http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/ http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/
    - neilc 18y ago
      And actually, I forgot that Peter E. left Sun a few weeks ago anyway: http://petereisentraut.blogspot.com/2009/03/sun-set-part-2.html http://petereisentraut.blogspot.com/2009/03/sun-set-part-2.h...
- ja27 18y ago
  I'm thinking Oracle/Sun will eventually end up in HP's hands.

mattmcknight 18y ago

It would be really weird if the future for MySQL involved PL/SQL. I can definitely imagine a world where it's not exactly free anymore. Anyone at the MySQL conference today (April 20)?

jon_dahl 18y ago
I'm at MySQLConf. The Oracle deal is all I've heard talk of so far, and I don't expect that will change over the next few days.

neovive 18y ago

I would definitely be concerned about any future innovation of MySQL. Perhaps, it will get folded into Oracle's Express edition and then slowly phased out over time. Any advances that put MySql even remotely close to Oracle in terms of scalability are unlikely to occur.