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> This is just BS, that you would know if you ever tried to lose weight. Let's look at some numbers then. Let's take a hypothetical person, 250 pounds, male, a

> This is just BS, that you would know if you ever tried to lose weight. Let's look at some numbers then. Let's take a hypothetical person, 250 pounds, male, age 25, 6' tall. This person does NOT change their diet. They exercise instead. Since exercise means weight loss, and diet is unimportant... Or so you claim. So to get to be 250 pounds you have to eat 2370 calories a day. Since they haven't change their diet and are 250 pound we know for a FACT they're eating 2370 on average a day... So how do we beat that with nothing but exercise? If they ran at 5 MpH they would burn 960 calories/hour, therefore at 2370 calories a day, in order to start losing weight they need to run at least 1.2 hrs a day, 7 days a week. How many even fit people do that much exercise? Not damn many. Do you? I don't. But contrast that against diet changes... In order to have the same amount of weight loss as 1.2 hrs/day/7 days they would need to eat the equivalent of four less McDonalds meals a week. What is harder? 8.5 hrs/week of running or eating four less McDonalds meals?

quandrum 13y ago
> This person does NOT change their diet. They exercise instead. Since exercise means weight loss, and diet is unimportant... Or so you claim. Where did he claim that? He does not mention diet. I took his claim to be: For the purpose of burning calories, a 45 minute workout will be more efficient than a 7 minute workout, regardless of workout content.
Kurtz79 13y ago
Pray tell, where did I say that diet is unimportant ??? Doing physical exercise without controlling intake is a surefire way to fail any weight loss program, since you tend to overestimate the burned calories and compensate by eating more. Let's take a REAL actual example, myself. I run 45/50 minutes x day (yes it's very possible to do that, as it is for the hundreds of people I meet daily in the park doing the same thing), burning an average of 500 calories x run. To lose a pound you need to burn about 3500 calories. This would be about a pound every week. Run half of the time(maybe more realistic, and perfectly achievable by most normal people) and we are talking about a pound every two weeks, without changing diet. I have been running an average of three days for week over the last 6 years, according to my Nike+ record, and I have had very little problems in controlling weight over these years, as opposed as being seriously overweight before I starting working out. Is diet more effective for weight loss? No, diet and exercise is a much more effective combination than any of those two alone, as doctors and scientists have been saying since, well, ever. But I thought we were comparing a cardio workout to the 7-minutes workout, where diet entered into the discussion exactly ?

quandrum 13y ago

> This person does NOT change their diet. They exercise instead. Since exercise means weight loss, and diet is unimportant... Or so you claim. Where did he claim that? He does not mention diet. I took his claim to be: For the purpose of burning calories, a 45 minute workout will be more efficient than a 7 minute workout, regardless of workout content.

Kurtz79 13y ago

Pray tell, where did I say that diet is unimportant ??? Doing physical exercise without controlling intake is a surefire way to fail any weight loss program, since you tend to overestimate the burned calories and compensate by eating more. Let's take a REAL actual example, myself. I run 45/50 minutes x day (yes it's very possible to do that, as it is for the hundreds of people I meet daily in the park doing the same thing), burning an average of 500 calories x run. To lose a pound you need to burn about 3500 calories. This would be about a pound every week. Run half of the time(maybe more realistic, and perfectly achievable by most normal people) and we are talking about a pound every two weeks, without changing diet. I have been running an average of three days for week over the last 6 years, according to my Nike+ record, and I have had very little problems in controlling weight over these years, as opposed as being seriously overweight before I starting working out. Is diet more effective for weight loss? No, diet and exercise is a much more effective combination than any of those two alone, as doctors and scientists have been saying since, well, ever. But I thought we were comparing a cardio workout to the 7-minutes workout, where diet entered into the discussion exactly ?