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I'm rewriting Nuuton with Go. Before, I was using a combination of Python (with Django), and Lisp (for the back end processing). After playing around with Go fo
by orangethirty 13y ago
I'm rewriting Nuuton with Go. Before, I was using a combination of Python (with Django), and Lisp (for the back end processing). After playing around with Go for a couple of hours, I decided to do a little test. Went ahead and wrote a simple API that mimicked how Nuuton worked. It turned out to be so simple and fun to build that I decided to trash all of the old code base and rewrite it in Go. The performance is great (it runs circles around the Python/Django code (expected)), but what I like is the syntax, and how easy it is to work with it. In my mind, its the right mix of C and Python. Its just an awesome language to work with.
- jervisfm 13y agoWhat is your Nuuton project about ?
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- orangethirty 13y agoA search engine. From what I know, its the only engine using Go (aside from Google.) Blekko uses Perl, DDG uses python (I think), Bing uses unicorn blood, and all the smallr ones use Jva and/or C++.
- omaranto 13y agoYou needn't have said "aside from Google": it seems that Google doesn't use Go for the search engine.
- orangethirty 13y agoThey do use it on some parts of the system. But its not a pure Go implementation like Nuuton. (:
- bradfitz 13y agoIt's mostly C++ for indexing and lookup, but "Search" is a big topic, and there are Go, Java, and Python parts in the many systems that make Google's web search work. Go is growing in popularity within Google.
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- alberich 13y agoHm, it seems DDG uses Perl actually[1]. [1]http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216392-architecture http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216392-a...
- alatkins 13y agoAwesome idea, because as we all know the choice of implementation language is absolutely crucial to the success of a startup.
- gcr 13y agoHow much fun the founders have is directly related to the chance of the startup's success, and a person's ability to learn is directly related to their personal success. Sarcasm doesn't belong on HN.
- orangethirty 13y agoWell, I was having fun with Python and Lisp. But it was a bit painful between all of the different parts. Plus on the front end, I was writing mostly Django. Which has its own set of conventions. I like to keep things simple. And that made me move to Go. Its simple.
- gcr 13y agoExactly. You switched to Go because it rewarded you. Here you made an improvement that you liked, and you grew happier. Now, when you sit down to write, you'll be more likely to think "Wow, here I get to learn another piece of the Go ecosystem," which will probably drive you to continue working on your startup.
- orangethirty 13y agoYes, spot on. I already have all of the business side stuff done, and will now focus on the fun part. Its refreshing to be able to sit down and just code. I'm putting up a simple blog at nuuton.com/blog. I'll blog about my experience coding it. Keep posted.
- TylerE 13y agoI think a huge part of go's success is the go command. For those of us coming from scripting language having the whole "configure/make/install" problem solved (and solved well) by the core language greatly lowers the barrier to entry.
- electrichead 13y agoI must say I like the name. What differentiates your search engine from the others?
- orangethirty 13y agoI am building it for us. Rather than to hype it up and cash in. It is truly a search engine aimed at hackers. In terms of features, you will learn as it goes through the BETA. Keep posted at the blog nuuton.com/blog.
- swah 13y agoI tried to use it but felt it was so slow to write your ideas that programming got boring (no advanced loops/generators, no list comprehensions, lambda functions aren't used very much IIRC). I'd probably stick with Python unless performance matters. But OTOH it really "just works" out of the box.
- nine_k 13y agoIt's a bit strange to complain about lack of use for "lambda functions" in a language where there's a keyword that generally accepts a function reference, most often a function literal? (This keyword coincidentally is the language name lower-cased.) WRT generators: have you tried using channels? "The tour of Go" seems to instill you with the idea that you should not iterate over lists and use channels instead. I also miss list comprehensions and, for that matter, type-parametrized functions. OTOH, static duck typing is brilliant: best of both worlds.
- swah 13y agoMaybe I used the wrong terms; what I mean't was that I didn't see stuff like "filter(lambda x:x>=50, s)"
- voidlogic 13y agoYou might find this interesting: http://blog.burntsushi.net/type-parametric-functions-golang http://blog.burntsushi.net/type-parametric-functions-golang
- nine_k 13y agoThis is indeed interesting, and this is why I'm missing something like func <A, B> Map(f func(A) B, input []A) []B that would statically check the A and B types at a call site. BTW it looks like less work at compile time than the elaborate run-time solution that you linked to. It probably will not even require generation of specialized versions for primitive types.
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