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What on earth did he expect would happen, and why on earth would anybody be outraged or otherwise incensed by this? Does anyone go to prison with the expectati

by rwc 13y ago

What on earth did he expect would happen, and why on earth would anybody be outraged or otherwise incensed by this? Does anyone go to prison with the expectation that they maintain their right to tweet?

corin_ 13y ago
If what is said in the article is correct, I don't see what was wrong with "him tweeting". He sent messages via a prison-approved method to someone outside who tweeted on his behalf. Do prisoners automatically retain the right to access online services? No. But why should they be denied the right to ask people in the outside world to use these services (which are completely legal - it's not like he was asking them to do anything dodgy) on his behalf? Just because the title makes it sound like he sneakily found a way around the system, this really isn't a big deal, he didn't break any rules, he didn't even find any loopholes, he just did what seems to be perfectly allowed. (Unless the article is neglecting to mention why it would not be allowed.) Weev is a massive tool, but (if his lawyer's speculation is correct) why do you feel that asking someone to post a tweet on your account warrants solitary confinement? What makes it worse than writing a letter to a newspaper, writing a book and having it published while in jail, or just speaking to someone and asking them to pass a message onto friends/family - all of which happen without outcry.
- mpyne 13y ago
  If it's prison-approved then it's true that stuff ending up on Twitter (which is how I'd phrase it rather than 'weev posting to Twitter') should not land him in solitary. But that is weev's theory for why he landed in solitary; there may be alternative reasons (e.g. joking about killing himself, disruptive behavior with other inmates, etc.)
  - corin_ 13y ago
    Sure, it's possible he's in solitary for killing 20 prison guards, but this article and these comments are on the theory that it's for tweeting, and the person I replied to suggested that this alone warranted solitary confinement.
praptak 13y ago
Prisoner or not, would expect things to be legal unless stated otherwise by a specific law. Is there a law that makes it illegal for someone to tweet on behalf of a prisoner? I'm genuinely curious about that.
- adestefan 13y ago
  There may be limits on his activity that were included in sentencing.
agwa 13y ago
> why on earth would anybody be outraged or otherwise incensed by this? Many people, including mental health experts and human rights advocates, believe that solitary confinement is essentially torture. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-the-torture-of-solitary-confinement/2013/02/20/ae115d74-7ac9-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-the-tortu... and http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_... for example.
mistercow 13y ago
>and why on earth would anybody be outraged or otherwise incensed by this? I think any decent person should be outraged by the idea of someone being put in solitary confinement for reasons other than being a danger to themselves or others. Even granting the point that he should have known this would happen (a point I'm not quite ready to concede), that doesn't make it any less deplorable. Rosa Parks should have known that she would be arrested if she didn't give up her seat. That doesn't make it OK that she was.

by rwc 13y ago

corin_ 13y ago

If what is said in the article is correct, I don't see what was wrong with "him tweeting". He sent messages via a prison-approved method to someone outside who tweeted on his behalf. Do prisoners automatically retain the right to access online services? No. But why should they be denied the right to ask people in the outside world to use these services (which are completely legal - it's not like he was asking them to do anything dodgy) on his behalf? Just because the title makes it sound like he sneakily found a way around the system, this really isn't a big deal, he didn't break any rules, he didn't even find any loopholes, he just did what seems to be perfectly allowed. (Unless the article is neglecting to mention why it would not be allowed.) Weev is a massive tool, but (if his lawyer's speculation is correct) why do you feel that asking someone to post a tweet on your account warrants solitary confinement? What makes it worse than writing a letter to a newspaper, writing a book and having it published while in jail, or just speaking to someone and asking them to pass a message onto friends/family - all of which happen without outcry.

mpyne 13y ago
If it's prison-approved then it's true that stuff ending up on Twitter (which is how I'd phrase it rather than 'weev posting to Twitter') should not land him in solitary. But that is weev's theory for why he landed in solitary; there may be alternative reasons (e.g. joking about killing himself, disruptive behavior with other inmates, etc.)
- corin_ 13y ago
  Sure, it's possible he's in solitary for killing 20 prison guards, but this article and these comments are on the theory that it's for tweeting, and the person I replied to suggested that this alone warranted solitary confinement.

praptak 13y ago

Prisoner or not, would expect things to be legal unless stated otherwise by a specific law. Is there a law that makes it illegal for someone to tweet on behalf of a prisoner? I'm genuinely curious about that.

adestefan 13y ago
There may be limits on his activity that were included in sentencing.

agwa 13y ago

> why on earth would anybody be outraged or otherwise incensed by this? Many people, including mental health experts and human rights advocates, believe that solitary confinement is essentially torture. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-the-torture-of-solitary-confinement/2013/02/20/ae115d74-7ac9-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-the-tortu... and http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_gawande http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_... for example.

mistercow 13y ago

>and why on earth would anybody be outraged or otherwise incensed by this? I think any decent person should be outraged by the idea of someone being put in solitary confinement for reasons other than being a danger to themselves or others. Even granting the point that he should have known this would happen (a point I'm not quite ready to concede), that doesn't make it any less deplorable. Rosa Parks should have known that she would be arrested if she didn't give up her seat. That doesn't make it OK that she was.