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I'll say it. It isn't and wasn't and if anything is biased against men. Details here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA https://www.youtube.com/watch

by ucee054 13y ago

I'll say it. It isn't and wasn't and if anything is biased against men. Details here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA http://owningyourshit.blogspot.co.uk/ http://owningyourshit.blogspot.co.uk/

CurtHagenlocher 13y ago
I've never been tempted to downvote something solely on the basis of my disagreeing with it, until now.
- jerrya 13y ago
  My suggestion is that instead of reaching for the downvote, that you click the link and read what "Girl Writes What" has to say. Though admittedly a little long-winded, she raises some very interesting points.
  - NoahTheDuke 13y ago
    Girl Writes What says almost nothing but terrible tripe. Like, that time she advocated domestic abuse as a way of relieving emotional and sexual tension in a relationship [1]. [1]: http://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRA/comments/y0nod/jto_brought_up_the_point_so_here_it_is_ferdinand/c5rjmh3 http://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRA/comments/y0nod/jto_brought_up_...
    - jerrya 13y ago
      At your link, I don't see her advocating domestic violence in any way shape or manner. I do see her describing one form of it, and then citing the first person to open a domestic violence shelter saying that one form is prevalent. That is a testable claim. You should test it, instead of intentionally mischaracterizing her argument, and then labeling that argument as tripe.
EliRivers 13y ago
OMG you're so right! I never noticed before that in the vast majority of societies throughout history and today men are effectively second class citizens. Remember how long it took for men to get the vote! And how in some cultures men are effectively the property of their wives! And there are those religious courts where they simply state that a man's statement doesn't count for as much as a woman's statement! I've got a million of these. It doesn't matter how many long-winded, carefully constructed points to the contrary are raised; every day I see women ignored, overlooked, and unconsciously stepped around in a way that happens far, far less frequently to men. The very fact that the counter-argument has to be carefully constructed is itself damning when compared to the simplicity and ease of verifying what it opposes.
- ucee054 13y ago
  No, she carefully constructs her counter arguments so as not to make stupid mistakes like you just did. About women being the "property" of their husbands, that's because the husband was liable for the wife's crimes, due to Coverture, which she covers here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JHkGZvC0z4I http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J... About the vote: some men had it, men didn't have it, in Anglo countries. Then it was given to all men as a sop because men could be press-ganged. So going to war and dying in a filthy trench based on some politician's whim became the "price of citizenship". But women got the vote without getting the draft that came with it. Yeah and she covers that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvcFzzUues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvcFzzUues She's got logic and facts. You've got ... sarcasm and assertions. Good luck with that. Now if you still think men have such a good deal, I suggest you try going through a nasty divorce and then get back to me.
- mtowle 13y ago
  >The very fact that the counter-argument has to be carefully constructed is itself damning Either that or the need to carefully construct arises when you know how snarky and dismissive the fine folks on the other side tend to be. They are, after all, invested in their beliefs to a greater degree, as they serve as an "out" for personal career failings. And given the extreme correlation between insane beliefs and self-flattery ("God says I should be king!", etc), that in and of itself is, what's the word....damning.

by ucee054 13y ago

CurtHagenlocher 13y ago

I've never been tempted to downvote something solely on the basis of my disagreeing with it, until now.

jerrya 13y ago
My suggestion is that instead of reaching for the downvote, that you click the link and read what "Girl Writes What" has to say. Though admittedly a little long-winded, she raises some very interesting points.
- NoahTheDuke 13y ago
  Girl Writes What says almost nothing but terrible tripe. Like, that time she advocated domestic abuse as a way of relieving emotional and sexual tension in a relationship [1]. [1]: http://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRA/comments/y0nod/jto_brought_up_the_point_so_here_it_is_ferdinand/c5rjmh3 http://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRA/comments/y0nod/jto_brought_up_...
  - jerrya 13y ago
    At your link, I don't see her advocating domestic violence in any way shape or manner. I do see her describing one form of it, and then citing the first person to open a domestic violence shelter saying that one form is prevalent. That is a testable claim. You should test it, instead of intentionally mischaracterizing her argument, and then labeling that argument as tripe.

EliRivers 13y ago

OMG you're so right! I never noticed before that in the vast majority of societies throughout history and today men are effectively second class citizens. Remember how long it took for men to get the vote! And how in some cultures men are effectively the property of their wives! And there are those religious courts where they simply state that a man's statement doesn't count for as much as a woman's statement! I've got a million of these. It doesn't matter how many long-winded, carefully constructed points to the contrary are raised; every day I see women ignored, overlooked, and unconsciously stepped around in a way that happens far, far less frequently to men. The very fact that the counter-argument has to be carefully constructed is itself damning when compared to the simplicity and ease of verifying what it opposes.

ucee054 13y ago
No, she carefully constructs her counter arguments so as not to make stupid mistakes like you just did. About women being the "property" of their husbands, that's because the husband was liable for the wife's crimes, due to Coverture, which she covers here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JHkGZvC0z4I http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J... About the vote: some men had it, men didn't have it, in Anglo countries. Then it was given to all men as a sop because men could be press-ganged. So going to war and dying in a filthy trench based on some politician's whim became the "price of citizenship". But women got the vote without getting the draft that came with it. Yeah and she covers that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvcFzzUues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvcFzzUues She's got logic and facts. You've got ... sarcasm and assertions. Good luck with that. Now if you still think men have such a good deal, I suggest you try going through a nasty divorce and then get back to me.
mtowle 13y ago
>The very fact that the counter-argument has to be carefully constructed is itself damning Either that or the need to carefully construct arises when you know how snarky and dismissive the fine folks on the other side tend to be. They are, after all, invested in their beliefs to a greater degree, as they serve as an "out" for personal career failings. And given the extreme correlation between insane beliefs and self-flattery ("God says I should be king!", etc), that in and of itself is, what's the word....damning.