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Subutex and Suboxone are not the same drug (I have no doubt my parent knows this, but for others edification), though both contain the same narcotic. Suboxone i

Subutex and Suboxone are not the same drug (I have no doubt my parent knows this, but for others edification), though both contain the same narcotic. Suboxone includes an opiate antagonist for the sole purpose of trying to keep people from injecting it. Injecting suboxone will send you into very unpleasant withdrawals immediately (I imagine there is some way to overcome that, though). I used Suboxone to wean myself from physical dependence to opiates after years of pain management. I agree that the article glosses over how bad opiate physical withdrawals are, and my experience didn't include the emotional withdrawals. My understanding is that suboxone withdrawals are much longer, due to its long half-life, but not as intense as heroin's. For six weeks, I didn't sleep more than two hours at a time, had constant chills and diarrhea, couldn't really eat, ached everywhere, and had non-stop restless muscles. A fever, indeed!

girvo 13y ago
Injecting Suboxone (Buprenopherine/Naloxone) actually has no ill effects apart from what I've posted below (hardening veins, danger in general...). Bupe's affinity for opiate receptors is so high that the Naloxone never gets a chance to bind itself. It simply has no effect, and doesn't stop a number of people at my clinic from injecting Suboxone. I hope you're doing better SoftwareMaven. Opiate withdrawals are hell, although mine were self-inflicted. As another interesting anecdote: Suboxone/Subutex withdrawals are far more drawn-out (although less acute) than heroin, due to it's long half-life. They suck balls, too. EDIT: LOL, you said that yourself. I'm an idiot.
- SoftwareMaven 13y ago
  I did get better, but it took forever. Even months later, I had the continual runny nose. Interestingly, all of the symptoms stopped when I started taking a very low dose of Naltrexone (another opiod antagonist). It may have been coincidence, but the remaining symptoms cleared up within 72 hours. There is some evidence that, at very low doses, Naltrexone will increase dopamine production through its slight interference, which is what caused me to try it in the first place.

girvo 13y ago

Injecting Suboxone (Buprenopherine/Naloxone) actually has no ill effects apart from what I've posted below (hardening veins, danger in general...). Bupe's affinity for opiate receptors is so high that the Naloxone never gets a chance to bind itself. It simply has no effect, and doesn't stop a number of people at my clinic from injecting Suboxone. I hope you're doing better SoftwareMaven. Opiate withdrawals are hell, although mine were self-inflicted. As another interesting anecdote: Suboxone/Subutex withdrawals are far more drawn-out (although less acute) than heroin, due to it's long half-life. They suck balls, too. EDIT: LOL, you said that yourself. I'm an idiot.

SoftwareMaven 13y ago
I did get better, but it took forever. Even months later, I had the continual runny nose. Interestingly, all of the symptoms stopped when I started taking a very low dose of Naltrexone (another opiod antagonist). It may have been coincidence, but the remaining symptoms cleared up within 72 hours. There is some evidence that, at very low doses, Naltrexone will increase dopamine production through its slight interference, which is what caused me to try it in the first place.