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Of course a forum full of VIM users is going to disagree with the notion that modes are bad. You guys stand in the way of UI progress. It's interesting too, bec
by TheZenPsycho 13y ago
Of course a forum full of VIM users is going to disagree with the notion that modes are bad. You guys stand in the way of UI progress. It's interesting too, because the software we are use to, the software we like, changes us and affects the way we think. But it's also a jail, preventing us from seeing new possibilities. Computers are capable of modeling and simulating ANYTHING and producing virtually any kind of interface, and yet we only ever use it with one or two different kinds of interface (typewriter-like, and desk-like). Not even very good interfaces.
Please do you us all a favor, I beg of you, read "The Humane Interface" by Jef Raskin, and have an open mind about it. Actually read it. If you've done that, and still disagree that modes are bad, you're going to have to give a really good reason. With evidence.
- derleth 13y ago> Jef Raskin Isn't he the one who thought configurability was always bad? > You guys stand in the way of UI progress. And here we go. You think we're so stupid that we can't know what's best for us, and need to be condescended to by someone who has no idea of what our workflow is like but Knows Better because he's... what? An Expert?
- rane 13y agoThose people who still ride horses... They're really holding us back as a civilization.
- TheZenPsycho 13y agoThis is a terrible analogy since the people who MAKE automobiles weren't fervent and rabid horse adherents, and Henry Ford never had to convince his engineers that cars shouldn't have legs and saddles.
- subsection1h 13y agoYou guys stand in the way of UI progress. Progress from whose perspective? The masses or the elite? Is a UI that's optimal for Joe Average also optimal for tech geniuses?
- TheZenPsycho 13y agoI could write an essay here, or you could take responsibility for your own curiosity and read a book. I suggest "The Humane Interface" by Jef Raskin and "The Design of Every Day Things" by Donald Norman. I consider these essential reading for those interested in UI concerns. Of course if you aren't interested, perhaps you are better off with a vt100 using VIM while modemed into a unix system V mainframe?
- derleth 13y ago> "The Humane Interface" by Jef Raskin Thoroughly debunked. The fact you keep citing to it shows the depth of your ignorance. Now do your own research instead of citing to debunked nonsense.
- TheZenPsycho 13y agodebunked by who? [citation needed]
- taeric 13y agoThere are few things as modal as a modern cell phone/tablet. You know, the bleeding edge of modern UI. To think that it is a few folks preference for older editors that does this, is just shallow. What does this is an explosion of possibilities with limited input capabilities. This is a dual with the other rule of "do not overload users." To fix the car example, dedicated bass controls can be used. Of course, most folks don't want that control. It "confuses" them. So... what do you do?