Just followed that thread again, and I think we're on the same side :) I mean, when I say that I prefer deterministic memory management, that includes an autom

Just followed that thread again, and I think we're on the same side :) I mean, when I say that I prefer deterministic memory management, that includes an automatic reference counting - smart pointers - which are now part of C++11. On that thread, under my "deterministic", you assumed only "manual" as it seems.