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ISPs refuse to shut down Pirate Bay

53 points by vaksel 18y ago

mannicken 18y ago
Incorrect headline. "ISPs refuse to censor Pirate Bay"
windsurfer 18y ago
You can't stop the signal.
keopi 18y ago
Is it feasible for all the ISPs to be taken to court? I feel like they want to head towards mass censorship. also, is the computer in that picture running Linux? It looks like a GNOME panel on the bottom of the screen.
- Zev 18y ago
  I don't think its feasible, but I don't think the people who decided to start suing have realized this quite yet. I doubt these people hold the same beliefs everyone in the organization does, but they are the figureheads and make the decisions. As bad of a strategy as it may be, waiting for a change in leadership might be the best option available. Also, its just Mac OS X with a lot of icons in the dock.
- tsally 18y ago
  I mean, it's not feasible to stop file sharing either, but it hasn't stopped them from trying.
- abrahamsen 18y ago
  > Is it feasible for all the ISPs to be taken to court? Yes. And it is much referable from the point of the ISP's, as that way they will avoid legal responsibility. If they start closing the connection to some servers because of illegal content on their own initiative, they increase the risk of being hold legally responsible for allowing access to the content of other servers. At least one Danish ISP (tele2) has closed for access to Pirate Bay after could order.
chaosmachine 18y ago
"We will not take any action (to block) the contents if we are not compelled to do so" In other words, no one with sufficient authority has asked yet.
- nopassrecover 18y ago
  And until the authority of whomever asks outweighs the money they must be taking from TPB can you really expect the ISP to take any action.
  - abrahamsen 18y ago
    It is not (directly) a question of money, but of legal responsibly. If they start actively censoring the content of the data that passes through their network, they risk losing the local equivalent of common carrier status, and become legally responsible for said data. That is obviously a nightmare scenario for the ISP (and a wet dream for the RIAA equivalents). But as long as the ISP's just follow court orders, they are reasonable safe.

53 points by vaksel 18y ago

mannicken 18y ago

Incorrect headline. "ISPs refuse to censor Pirate Bay"

windsurfer 18y ago

You can't stop the signal.

keopi 18y ago

Is it feasible for all the ISPs to be taken to court? I feel like they want to head towards mass censorship. also, is the computer in that picture running Linux? It looks like a GNOME panel on the bottom of the screen.

Zev 18y ago
I don't think its feasible, but I don't think the people who decided to start suing have realized this quite yet. I doubt these people hold the same beliefs everyone in the organization does, but they are the figureheads and make the decisions. As bad of a strategy as it may be, waiting for a change in leadership might be the best option available. Also, its just Mac OS X with a lot of icons in the dock.
tsally 18y ago
I mean, it's not feasible to stop file sharing either, but it hasn't stopped them from trying.
abrahamsen 18y ago
> Is it feasible for all the ISPs to be taken to court? Yes. And it is much referable from the point of the ISP's, as that way they will avoid legal responsibility. If they start closing the connection to some servers because of illegal content on their own initiative, they increase the risk of being hold legally responsible for allowing access to the content of other servers. At least one Danish ISP (tele2) has closed for access to Pirate Bay after could order.

chaosmachine 18y ago

"We will not take any action (to block) the contents if we are not compelled to do so" In other words, no one with sufficient authority has asked yet.

nopassrecover 18y ago
And until the authority of whomever asks outweighs the money they must be taking from TPB can you really expect the ISP to take any action.
- abrahamsen 18y ago
  It is not (directly) a question of money, but of legal responsibly. If they start actively censoring the content of the data that passes through their network, they risk losing the local equivalent of common carrier status, and become legally responsible for said data. That is obviously a nightmare scenario for the ISP (and a wet dream for the RIAA equivalents). But as long as the ISP's just follow court orders, they are reasonable safe.