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what you have said is true. I mean im from oz and when we were all at uni there wasnt really much talk of startups and starting our own businesses, not in my ci

by sid 17y ago

what you have said is true. I mean im from oz and when we were all at uni there wasnt really much talk of startups and starting our own businesses, not in my circle anyway. It was all about getting the best grades to kick butt at the interview. Because that was my circle thats all i knew at the time. Now after doing the grades and doing the 9-5 i know NOW what i would have told my younger self. I would have told my younger self that there is a better way. The funny thing is ! i know that my younger self would just tell my current self to buzz off cuz a stable job is the way to go, its tried and tested. I guess the lesson learnt is there are alot of things the computer science/engineering degrees dont teach because its not possible to teach these things unless someone has gone through the motions and their own experiences click in. Comp Sci/Eng degrees can give ideas and direction but sometimes at the time you dont see them as ideas, you just see them as a waste of time cause you want to go to the next programming, algorithms or electronics class, not this stupid, project management or business for engineers class ...

wushupork 17y ago
This is very true. If your mindset is not ready for it, it will just be noise much like your parents' advice when you were a teenager. I think entrepreneurial classes should be part of university curriculum as well as personal finance. I know way too many college acquaintances lured by credit card offers on college campus who now are oblivious maintaining credit card debt thinking it's normal.
Palaver 17y ago
Also being from Oz yet perhaps closer to the 'younger self' you described, I feel compelled to reply. Although it is fun to romanticise about alternate paths you are quite correct: had you not taken the path you did, you would not have come to the realisation you now have. I graduated from my CS degree with strong results in 2007 and bucked the trend of my peers to live the entrepreneurial dream while freelancing on the side to sustain me. I was rather naive. While freelancing I had no idea how to quote, bill, manage scope, protect myself from being taken advantage of, etc. You pick these things up along the way, but the experience can be painful. My entrepreneurship endeavour fared even worse as I quickly fell into the trap of trying to produce perfection in a vacuum. The saving grace of this period results from my dabbling in the share market which has proven to be rather profitable. I made the stark decision to give the 9 to 5 a shot and quickly landed a job in one of the large IT consulting firms. It has been the best decision I've made so far, if only to give me exposure to the significant problems that exist in enterprise software. If there's one industry that deserves to be innovated to the hilt, this is it. I feel invigorated and more motivated than I ever have been to break out on my own. I also am the most capable I've ever been, having stripped away some of my nativity (although hopefully some remains - I suspect it can be valuable).
- sid 17y ago
  I guess we are in a mirror image at the moment :) i worked at a big consultancy company then worked overseas for 3 years then came back here again. When i was overseas i worked in asia and it was there that i really met with some great business people. I then decided to do business myself and at the moment its working out ok. But i was only able to come to this realisation after the work i did in the various companies be it crappy work unfulfilling work or not. When i look back at it, i feel that it is unfulfilling but i cant deny the great skills that i learnt from the various companies. Anyway, best of luck with your endevours :)

by sid 17y ago

wushupork 17y ago

This is very true. If your mindset is not ready for it, it will just be noise much like your parents' advice when you were a teenager. I think entrepreneurial classes should be part of university curriculum as well as personal finance. I know way too many college acquaintances lured by credit card offers on college campus who now are oblivious maintaining credit card debt thinking it's normal.

Palaver 17y ago

Also being from Oz yet perhaps closer to the 'younger self' you described, I feel compelled to reply. Although it is fun to romanticise about alternate paths you are quite correct: had you not taken the path you did, you would not have come to the realisation you now have. I graduated from my CS degree with strong results in 2007 and bucked the trend of my peers to live the entrepreneurial dream while freelancing on the side to sustain me. I was rather naive. While freelancing I had no idea how to quote, bill, manage scope, protect myself from being taken advantage of, etc. You pick these things up along the way, but the experience can be painful. My entrepreneurship endeavour fared even worse as I quickly fell into the trap of trying to produce perfection in a vacuum. The saving grace of this period results from my dabbling in the share market which has proven to be rather profitable. I made the stark decision to give the 9 to 5 a shot and quickly landed a job in one of the large IT consulting firms. It has been the best decision I've made so far, if only to give me exposure to the significant problems that exist in enterprise software. If there's one industry that deserves to be innovated to the hilt, this is it. I feel invigorated and more motivated than I ever have been to break out on my own. I also am the most capable I've ever been, having stripped away some of my nativity (although hopefully some remains - I suspect it can be valuable).

sid 17y ago
I guess we are in a mirror image at the moment :) i worked at a big consultancy company then worked overseas for 3 years then came back here again. When i was overseas i worked in asia and it was there that i really met with some great business people. I then decided to do business myself and at the moment its working out ok. But i was only able to come to this realisation after the work i did in the various companies be it crappy work unfulfilling work or not. When i look back at it, i feel that it is unfulfilling but i cant deny the great skills that i learnt from the various companies. Anyway, best of luck with your endevours :)