Even more amazing is when you aren't dealing with a client (who is by definition clueless) but a manager (who really should know what it is that he is managing)

Even more amazing is when you aren't dealing with a client (who is by definition clueless) but a manager (who really should know what it is that he is managing). Ex : "This client's site is all fucked up. A simple upgrade isn't possible because it was written 3 version back and the formats for everything changed. Rewrite it from scratch using this hideously complex tool which you've never touched before. It'll take you only 40 hours, right?".