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Social Roulette has a 1 in 6 chance of deleting your account
- Flimm 13y agoI really like this idea. I've always wondered whether I should delete my Facebook account, but I never put the effort into weighing up the consequences. I might just do this for the thrill of it. If I survive I get an interesting status, if not, I leave Facebook for silly reasons. Win/win. I don't understand the purpose of the second rule: "you must play once a day". If you abide by that rule, then you're guaranteed to leave Facebook eventually. Where's the thrill in that? Is this rule optional, or does the app play for you automatically?
- SixteenBlue 13y agoIt says _may_ play _only_ once a day.
- Flimm 13y agoAh, I did not notice the only word. It seems like a pointless rule to me.
- guiomie 13y agoHow save is this? By safe I mean, how do I know they wont steal all my facebook information and store it somehwere...
- dbrian 13y agoYou don't! See, it's two games in one.
- orangethirty 13y agoFunny bit about this is that someone will give these people millions in funding or acquihire. All for a: from random import randint choice = randint(1, 6) delete = randint(1, 6) if choice == delete: print "Today is not your lucky day." else: print "Try again tomorrow." print "Today's choice was {0}.".format(choice) #I felt like writing some bad python.
- m4design 13y agoThere's a bug in your code, the chance of deleting is less than 1/6.
- olympus 13y agoWhile the code could use streamlining by only drawing one randint and comparing it to a static number, the probability of orangethirty's way of doing it still gives the correct probability of 1/6. Think of it as two dice, the chance of rolling doubles is 6/36 = 1/6.
- andrewchoi 13y agoI think the point of the post you're responding to is that the code doesn't actually delete anything.
- orangethirty 13y agoHow could it delete what is not there? Or did you really expect me to write python script with fb graph integration?
- SandB0x 13y agoFYI "choice" is the name of a function in the random module: from random import choice if choice(range(6)): print "Try again tomorrow." else: print "Today is not your lucky day."
- orangethirty 13y agoNo one liner? Im disappointed. Did you read the commnt at the end?
- shill 13y agoalert(Math.floor(Math.random()*5)<1?"Boom!":"Click!");
- austenallred 13y agoIs it really that scary to delete your account? It's really, really easy to reactivate. When I deactivated my Facebook account it was hard to not reactivate it.
- flippyhead 13y agoYeah but they say they remove all your posts and photos too.
- fein 13y agoI deleted, not deactivated, my account about 2 years ago; it's far more liberating than scary. Of course, I still have an fb account for running ads and using the api's, but neither my name nor personal email is tied to it at all.
- qu4z-2 13y agoIn my experience liberating and scary often go hand-in-hand.
- JeremyBanks 13y agoDeactivating your Facebook account is not the same thing as deleting it. Deleting is permanent (though it's delayed to prevent abuse). https://www.facebook.com/help/214376678584711 https://www.facebook.com/help/214376678584711 https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674 https://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674
- kyrias 13y agoSure, but you have to wait for (last time I checked) 1 month without logging in before it's actually deleted.
- xanadohnt 13y agoThis probably breaks TOS somehow. There once was another very similar service that swapped followers between two Twitter users. That was taken down as breaking Twitter's TOS.
- manojlds 13y agoYou mean swapped "followed"?
- WA 13y agoI once read that the chance of Russian Roulette is NOT 1:6 but more like 1:600, since you play with one bullet and the weight of the bullet makes it relatively unlikely that the bullet stops next to the top position in the barrel when you spin it. Don't know if this is true but in the end, it doesn't matter for this stupid game.
- madsushi 13y agoDepends on if you're re-spinning between turns. Otherwise the first guy might get a 1/600 chance, but everyone afterward has better (or worse?) than 1/6 odds.
- tel 13y agoWell, if it's the case that there's a 1/6000 chance that the first guy gets hit, it's 5999/6000 chance that the third guy gets it. (Not true, but it's gesturally correct). So I imagine the odds are much less skewed or NOBODY forgets the spin between rounds. Also, if you don't spin between rounds and you're the 6th person to try it... this isn't really a game of risk anymore.
- skue 13y agoWhy is the parent down voted? He was responding to the hypothetical case that the odds are initially 1/600 due to bullet weight and no one else spins. Granted, he wrote 1/6000 instead of 1/600, but his basic point is correct: if no one else spins, the odds for each of the other 5 players would not remain ~1/6.
- tel 13y agoThanks for the nudge! I did misread the hypothetical distribution the parent claimed. I definitely wrote that response in a hurry as a thought experiment to flesh out what the least bizarre rules for R.R. might be, but I was surprised by the vehement negative response.
- kyrias 13y ago
- minimaxir 13y agoNorton flagged the website as a "Facebook Fake Like Count Scam."
- russellsprouts 13y agoI got the same thing.
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- aw3c2 13y agoLooks like it is by Jacob Appelbaum, at least that is his profile pic in the screenshot (next to the empty answer box). Would be weird though as it is using Google Analytics.
- PavlovsCat 13y agoNicely spotted, but the quote on the top left indicates the author is Douglas Rushkoff ^^
- PaulMest 13y agoAn app using Facebook's API cannot delete objects not created by itself (e.g. cannot delete posts or photos). So either this requires you install a browser extension or it's fake.
- etjossem 13y agoCorrect; this was a social experiment. The aftermath is explained here: http://fffff.at/when-you-dont-own-yourself/ http://fffff.at/when-you-dont-own-yourself/
- hawkharris 13y agoI don't know much about the API, but that was my understanding as well. I just tried the game and survived. Can anyone who has had the experience of losing describe what happened?
- davecerrado 13y agoI just played and lost, 'Bang, your Facebook account is being deleted'. In panic mode I was thinking I could cancel it, tried to remove Socialroulette from my authorized apps, but it was too late. Now, no account but I'm gonna try and reactive it and will you know how it goes
- jrabone 13y agoIt's the http://www.arcadebliss.com/game/russian-roulette.htm http://www.arcadebliss.com/game/russian-roulette.htm of its decade...
- StavrosK 13y agoWhy would someone not spin the revolver?
- paulnechifor 13y agoHardcore mode.
- leddt 13y agoFrom what I can see, the opponent never spins. So I guess if you survive without spinning, they are more likely to lose on the next attempt.
- ownagefool 13y agoHe span for me, but only when we were on the last two bullets, which was about the same time I was spinning.
- StavrosK 13y agoI always spun, and I'd say he spun around 50% of the time. We took around 10 turns, too.
- tomjen3 13y agoBecause it is cheating. The chance of the nth person getting the revolver (with no spin) is 1 - (n-1)/6, so the chance of the nth person dying is 1 - (n - 1) / 6 times the chance of a bullet in the chamber which is n/6. You spin and the last one becomes n/6, which means that the game is biased in favor of later starters.
- StavrosK 13y ago
- antihero 13y ago> What are you afraid of? Well, losing my account.
- wellboy 13y agoThis should get "acquired" by Facebook and then shut down, otherwise they'll lose half of their user base, haha^^
- btipling 13y agoThe testmonials on that site are complete fabrications. Gawker never said "Social Roulette just rewrote the rules for online gaming." nor has it ever mentioned Social Roulette and the Gruber quote also does not exist, only someone tweeted it at him. Testimonials that are lies are shameful and dishonest.
- b0z0 13y agoThe creator was being facetious and the fabrications were meant to be obvious enough that no one would take them seriously, right?
- btipling 13y agoNo, it isn't obvious that the listed testimonials are fake.
- onemorepassword 13y agoIt is pretty obvious to most people. That doesn't make you stupid, but you may find that you encounter similar situations in life, and it's something you may want to be aware of before you start throwing around big words like "lies", "shameful" and "dishonest" where such reactions are completely misplaced.
- yen223 13y ago"It is pretty obvious to most people." I really doubt most people know who Gawker, Bruce Sterling, John Gruber or FaltyDL are, which makes it doubtful that most people are in on the joke.
- petsos 13y agoThese quotes are not out there in a vacuum, they are on a site that randomly deletes your Facebook account. Even if you don't know any of these people it doesn't require much to realize they are jokes. I mean who would ever say "It's the most exciting thing I've done this year" for a site like this?
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- milkshakes 13y agoInvalid API Key Well that didn't take long.
- brebory 13y agoI suspect it's because the original app id and secret key are public on the github repo.[1] I bet they're registering a new application and secret right now, hence the invalid API key error. [1]: https://github.com/kylemcdonald/socialroulette.net/blob/ba3267ab9f2c6464e26ef9c39056beec594dee83/index.php https://github.com/kylemcdonald/socialroulette.net/blob/ba32...
- film42 13y agoEither that or they're starting to exceed usage. I'm sure there's not some magic mass delete routes for facebook's api. I have to think they're going to be hitting some kind of limit here pretty soon.
- skcin7 13y agoI also get a FB OAuth Invalid API key error when I try to "play" the app.
- EGreg 13y agoGee, looks like this shows how great it is to rely on a platform to build something sustainable. Invalid API Key
- mct 13y agoThe source appears to be available at https://github.com/kylemcdonald/socialroulette.net https://github.com/kylemcdonald/socialroulette.net
- leddt 13y agoSadly it's missing all the interesting code (it's gitignored). Not sure what's the point of putting it on github in that state.
- brokentone 13y agoQuite similar to what Harper Reed and Rafael Lozano-Hemmer did at 7-on-7 a few weeks back (which was quickly disabled by FB) http://www.friendfracker.com/ http://www.friendfracker.com/
- Epithet 13y agoWhen I click the link, Norton is telling me that it's blocked an attack by "Web Attack: Fake Like Count Spam", FYI. Curiously, this is happening even when NoScript appears to be blocking scripts on the page.
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- driverdan 13y agoThere are a bunch of red flags here. It's possible this app has an ulterior motive. At the top it says the author is Douglas Rushkoff but the avatar in the FB screenshot (under The Story) is Jacob Appelbaum's[1]. Here are the permissions it requests[2]: "publish_stream, email, rsvp_event, publish_actions, friends_online_presence, user_online_presence, manage_notifications, manage_friendlists, create_event, ads_management, xmpp_login, read_stream, read_requests, read_mailbox, read_insights, read_friendlists, user_work_history, user_website, user_videos, user_subscriptions, user_status, user_religion_politics, user_relationship_details, user_relationships, user_questions, user_photos, user_notes, user_location, user_likes, user_interests, user_hometown, user_groups, user_education_history, user_games_activity, user_actions.video, user_actions.news, user_actions.music" There would be no point in requesting most of those if all you were doing was publishing a message or deleting content. As PaulMest pointed out, apps do not have access to delete most of your content. [1]: https://twitter.com/ioerror https://twitter.com/ioerror [2]: https://github.com/kylemcdonald/socialroulette.net/blob/master/index.php https://github.com/kylemcdonald/socialroulette.net/blob/mast...
- ooorrr 13y agoI think it's saying that Douglas Rushkoff is an author, not the author of this particular app. Since they're all fabrications anyway, though, it doesn't much matter.
- ihuman 13y agoFrom the FAQ: Can Social Roulette really delete my account? Yes. While it's very difficulty to "permanently delete" a Facebook account, we can completely remove all your posts, friends, apps, likes, photos, and games before completely deactivating it.
- ben0x539 13y agoFinally, a convenient way to delete your facebook account with fewer hoops to jump through.
- mellis 13y agohttp://fffff.at/social-roulette/ http://fffff.at/social-roulette/