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That's because "immigration" in this country is actually veiled dilution of the worker pool, externalizing costs, lazy, inflation of limited resources and there

by wahsd 13y ago

That's because "immigration" in this country is actually veiled dilution of the worker pool, externalizing costs, lazy, inflation of limited resources and thereby self-perpetuating wealth creation, deflates source country pressures for improvement, and drains talent from other places. It is a pernicious practice all around and only advantages the wealthy of the destination country, i.e., USA. It's destructive, poisoning, and exploitative all around for everyone else.

icebraining 13y ago
How does it not benefit the immigrants themselves?
ajju 13y ago
I am an immigrant, and coming here was constructive, sustaining and a very positive thing for me. I got a graduate degree here, and then started a startup that employs several people, enables our users to to access transportation much more easily (and in some cases safely) millions of times every year. I don't see how me coming to the United States has been a net loss for anyone. I know (personally) at least 100 other people like me.
- twelvechairs 13y ago
  Not to speak on behalf of GP, but I think the issue is not you as a successful permanent immigrant, but the way the system holds other potential immigrants out and permits some only on short-term visas who then get dumped back to their places of origin.
  - ajju 13y ago
    "immigration" in this country....[is] destructive, poisoning, and exploitative all around for everyone else. GP didn't single out immigrants who come here on short-term visas, but even if he had, I came here on a short term visa, and so did every single one of the 100 people I referred to. It is true that many had to go back to their places of origin. In some cases they suffered because of it, although I'd argue their place of origin benefited. In some cases they started startups after returning, and both they and their place of origin benefited.

by wahsd 13y ago

icebraining 13y ago

How does it not benefit the immigrants themselves?

ajju 13y ago

I am an immigrant, and coming here was constructive, sustaining and a very positive thing for me. I got a graduate degree here, and then started a startup that employs several people, enables our users to to access transportation much more easily (and in some cases safely) millions of times every year. I don't see how me coming to the United States has been a net loss for anyone. I know (personally) at least 100 other people like me.

twelvechairs 13y ago
Not to speak on behalf of GP, but I think the issue is not you as a successful permanent immigrant, but the way the system holds other potential immigrants out and permits some only on short-term visas who then get dumped back to their places of origin.
- ajju 13y ago
  "immigration" in this country....[is] destructive, poisoning, and exploitative all around for everyone else. GP didn't single out immigrants who come here on short-term visas, but even if he had, I came here on a short term visa, and so did every single one of the 100 people I referred to. It is true that many had to go back to their places of origin. In some cases they suffered because of it, although I'd argue their place of origin benefited. In some cases they started startups after returning, and both they and their place of origin benefited.