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PHP is accounts for the majority of lower end web dev and even some % of the high end. Having a LAMP stack that works up and running in one command is great fo

by jiggy2011 14y ago

PHP is accounts for the majority of lower end web dev and even some % of the high end. Having a LAMP stack that works up and running in one command is great for people who just want to FTP up a bunch of folders and be done with it. People developing on Rails etc are probably developing against some specific version rather than "whatever happens to be in the repo" and are more likely to be either using a specialist environment like heroku or bring their own puppet setup to the party.

antihero 14y ago
And this is why sites get hacked so much.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  How so? Other stacks are no strangers to vulnerabilities.
  - antihero 14y ago
    Even still, people are using mysql_, because mainstream PHP culture is one of ignorance.
    - hysterix 14y ago
      And why you are sitting around ycombinator trashing php and talking about which stack is superior, I've gotten loads done with it. You can write awful code with php or you can write great code with php or something in-between, it's up to the developer. The fact that you go so out of your way to trash php going to the lengths to question "why lamp is treated as a first class citizen", actually just goes to show your own utter dependency on development environment and existing code base. So if there is crappy code out there, suddenly you become incapable of writing good code? No, so why sit around on sites and trash a programming language that the final product completely depends on the skill level of the person writing it. You touch php and all you write is shit code? Maybe you are just shitty at programming? You don't "have" to use ruby or python to write clean, well thought out code. Please get off your high horse and understand that people get shit done using the lamp stack, and give it a rest. Do you berate any other programmer anytime you see them writing perl as well? You are not superior to anyone because of the technology stack you use. edit: how about you downvoters, actually come up with a coherent response and tell me why I'm wrong instead of treating this site like reddit and downvoting what you don't understand. eddit2: I've noticed you have a nice github repo, which includes https://github.com/radiosilence/Ham https://github.com/radiosilence/Ham All of your code looks clean and very decent, I'm just pointing out that php is obviously a good enough language for you to waste your own time developing in it!
  - petsos 14y ago
    True, but LAMP and vulnerabilities are BFFs.
    - rubinelli 14y ago
      Actually, the situation is worse than you make it look. Most sites are running WordPress, which isn't particularly secure out of the box, and only gets worse as poorly written plugins are added.

antihero 14y ago

And this is why sites get hacked so much.

jiggy2011 14y ago
How so? Other stacks are no strangers to vulnerabilities.
- antihero 14y ago
  Even still, people are using mysql_, because mainstream PHP culture is one of ignorance.
  - hysterix 14y ago
    And why you are sitting around ycombinator trashing php and talking about which stack is superior, I've gotten loads done with it. You can write awful code with php or you can write great code with php or something in-between, it's up to the developer. The fact that you go so out of your way to trash php going to the lengths to question "why lamp is treated as a first class citizen", actually just goes to show your own utter dependency on development environment and existing code base. So if there is crappy code out there, suddenly you become incapable of writing good code? No, so why sit around on sites and trash a programming language that the final product completely depends on the skill level of the person writing it. You touch php and all you write is shit code? Maybe you are just shitty at programming? You don't "have" to use ruby or python to write clean, well thought out code. Please get off your high horse and understand that people get shit done using the lamp stack, and give it a rest. Do you berate any other programmer anytime you see them writing perl as well? You are not superior to anyone because of the technology stack you use. edit: how about you downvoters, actually come up with a coherent response and tell me why I'm wrong instead of treating this site like reddit and downvoting what you don't understand. eddit2: I've noticed you have a nice github repo, which includes https://github.com/radiosilence/Ham https://github.com/radiosilence/Ham All of your code looks clean and very decent, I'm just pointing out that php is obviously a good enough language for you to waste your own time developing in it!
- petsos 14y ago
  True, but LAMP and vulnerabilities are BFFs.
  - rubinelli 14y ago
    Actually, the situation is worse than you make it look. Most sites are running WordPress, which isn't particularly secure out of the box, and only gets worse as poorly written plugins are added.