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Some countries like Switzerland have plenty of guns and they are pretty safe places. Those who want to harm other people find the means to do it. Let's focus o

by gasull 13y ago

Some countries like Switzerland have plenty of guns and they are pretty safe places. Those who want to harm other people find the means to do it. Let's focus on the roots of violence, not the means.

saraid216 13y ago
Most of the gun proliferation behaviors in the US are rooted in a desire to hurt people. They're using plenty of other tools besides guns to do it, because ultimately, even a nuclear bomb is less efficient at screwing others over than denying universal healthcare.
- obviouslygreen 13y ago
  Most of the gun proliferation behaviors in the US are rooted in a desire to hurt people. I can confirm this. As an American from a family with a long history of gun ownership, and having grown up around and interacted with many others of the same nature, there is not a single doubt that gun ownership in the US can be trivially summed up in such a fashion. There is, after all, no other reason to own guns in the US. We do not allow hunting here, target shooting is not a popular activity, and with near-zero crime rates, there is no reason anyone should consider owning a firearm for protection. Honestly, I don't understand how some people feel justified making ridiculous claims like this.
  - saraid216 13y ago
    I'm not talking about gun ownership; I'm talking about business interests. Sometimes I think that I should increase my personal suicide risk by buying a gun just to make people like you feel less threatened by me.
  - hga 13y ago
    WRT to those near-zero crime rates, it's also not the case that 42 states with around 2/3rd the population has de jure or de facto shall issue concealed carry regimes, along with much of rural Massachusetts (!!!) and California, and upstate New York, plus a thoroughly confused situation in Rhode Island. Nor does Illinois face a June 9th deadline to replace their no issue regime with a shall issue one, or see their law go "poof". And it is clearly just in my imagination that I holster a M1911 almost every time I walk out the door.
  - lifeguard 13y ago
    I was given a shotgun for my 10th birthday. I had no idea why, we lived in a city. American gun culture is crazy insane.

by gasull 13y ago

Some countries like Switzerland have plenty of guns and they are pretty safe places. Those who want to harm other people find the means to do it. Let's focus on the roots of violence, not the means.

saraid216 13y ago

Most of the gun proliferation behaviors in the US are rooted in a desire to hurt people. They're using plenty of other tools besides guns to do it, because ultimately, even a nuclear bomb is less efficient at screwing others over than denying universal healthcare.

obviouslygreen 13y ago
Most of the gun proliferation behaviors in the US are rooted in a desire to hurt people. I can confirm this. As an American from a family with a long history of gun ownership, and having grown up around and interacted with many others of the same nature, there is not a single doubt that gun ownership in the US can be trivially summed up in such a fashion. There is, after all, no other reason to own guns in the US. We do not allow hunting here, target shooting is not a popular activity, and with near-zero crime rates, there is no reason anyone should consider owning a firearm for protection. Honestly, I don't understand how some people feel justified making ridiculous claims like this.
- saraid216 13y ago
  I'm not talking about gun ownership; I'm talking about business interests. Sometimes I think that I should increase my personal suicide risk by buying a gun just to make people like you feel less threatened by me.
- hga 13y ago
  WRT to those near-zero crime rates, it's also not the case that 42 states with around 2/3rd the population has de jure or de facto shall issue concealed carry regimes, along with much of rural Massachusetts (!!!) and California, and upstate New York, plus a thoroughly confused situation in Rhode Island. Nor does Illinois face a June 9th deadline to replace their no issue regime with a shall issue one, or see their law go "poof". And it is clearly just in my imagination that I holster a M1911 almost every time I walk out the door.
- lifeguard 13y ago
  I was given a shotgun for my 10th birthday. I had no idea why, we lived in a city. American gun culture is crazy insane.