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You are absolutely, without a doubt, incorrect. Making up random guesses about your caloric intake is exactly why people think all sorts of crazy nonsense abou

You are absolutely, without a doubt, incorrect. Making up random guesses about your caloric intake is exactly why people think all sorts of crazy nonsense about metabolism like you do. You were eating less than your recommended intake, not double it. You just suck at estimating. Most people do. There is no way you were eating 5000 kcal in the hospital, they won't even let you.

Zenst 13y ago
Sorry are you saying you know me better than me, when you have not even met me! This hospital in the uk I was and did, I have no need to lie about it. I know what I was eating and the volumes and I know what I eat when I'm not in hospital, so sorry if I completely and utterly disagree with your random asertion. There again I have been known to eat 3 full plated roast dinners in a day, we are all different, just accept it that I know myself better and I know I am not exagerating and not all hospitals are the same, let alone hospitals in different countries. Though you have proven my concerns fully, sadly enough :(
- papsosouid 13y ago
  >Sorry are you saying you know me better than me, when you have not even met me! It has nothing to do with you, it has to do with physics. If anything you said was even remotely close to true, we would have already read about you in a medical journal, as you would be a first in history discovery of something completely new and amazing.
  - Zenst 13y ago
    Sorry but you do not know what you are talking about - please troll elsewere. In other words you are not me and as I said in the original post - EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT, we come in all shapes and sizes and all have different metabolistic rates and ways of burning calories. I just said how it was and with that you came along used your perspective based upon yoruself and saw something outside that template and assumed it was wrong and went into troll mode. Though looking at your past comments you are keen towards doing that, hence you have sibmitted nothing! With that I was there you was not, so this is not even a debate or argument or discussion, it is clear and outright trolling on your part, simple as.
    - papsosouid 13y ago
      Trying to dismiss opinions you don't like as "trolling" is simply childish. You are wrong. It is simple fact. There is no way for anyone to lose weight while consuming 5000 kcal/day while sedentary. No amount of "but I am such a special snowflake" will change that. The entire point is that we're not that different. Offer up an explanation for what magic difference you possess that burns 2000-3000kcal/day for you, don't just spew lazy rhetoric.
      - Zenst 13y ago
        I have already covered this and you completely ignored it. It is you who is spewing up rhetoric. As for magic - seriously and as for being special - seriously! I'm above average height, think alot and I can not get by on 3k calories a day, somebody smaller with a slower metabolism who thinks less can, you just come along and asume it is wrong and justify it on the basis that you know better and offer NO evidence. Lets put this down to difference of oppinion and that you are not me and I am not you and as I have said everybody is different and it is those that impose such cookie cutter type attitudes that are the ones that concern me, thats you that is. Your tone has been dismissive, insulting and frankly everything that a troll is, if it looks like one, talks like one and acts like one. Well you can see my point of veiw and choose to ignore it, which you did and then went on to support my concerns with perfect clarity in an example you can't make up. Comming along and telling somebody that they are lieing because they don't fit the normal aspect is frankly not what these forums are about, sorry I don't have research paper written about me, but and this is the shocking news, not everybody does because we are all different. Applying an average against the top and bottom end of the scales is just silly and goes against what an average is meant to be. As for people who need higher than everage intakes for many reasons there are many examples if you can be bothered to look, and I have no desire to let you near my medical records or indeed go into detail about my medical history at all for the sake of pandering to somebody who offers no proof. And no I have not had a gastoric bypass, so you can count that one out. I wished I could eat what norms eat and maintain myself, I can't and I'm sorry I go against your hitleresk views off people.
        13y ago

Zenst 13y ago

Sorry are you saying you know me better than me, when you have not even met me! This hospital in the uk I was and did, I have no need to lie about it. I know what I was eating and the volumes and I know what I eat when I'm not in hospital, so sorry if I completely and utterly disagree with your random asertion. There again I have been known to eat 3 full plated roast dinners in a day, we are all different, just accept it that I know myself better and I know I am not exagerating and not all hospitals are the same, let alone hospitals in different countries. Though you have proven my concerns fully, sadly enough :(

papsosouid 13y ago
>Sorry are you saying you know me better than me, when you have not even met me! It has nothing to do with you, it has to do with physics. If anything you said was even remotely close to true, we would have already read about you in a medical journal, as you would be a first in history discovery of something completely new and amazing.
- Zenst 13y ago
  Sorry but you do not know what you are talking about - please troll elsewere. In other words you are not me and as I said in the original post - EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT, we come in all shapes and sizes and all have different metabolistic rates and ways of burning calories. I just said how it was and with that you came along used your perspective based upon yoruself and saw something outside that template and assumed it was wrong and went into troll mode. Though looking at your past comments you are keen towards doing that, hence you have sibmitted nothing! With that I was there you was not, so this is not even a debate or argument or discussion, it is clear and outright trolling on your part, simple as.
  - papsosouid 13y ago
    Trying to dismiss opinions you don't like as "trolling" is simply childish. You are wrong. It is simple fact. There is no way for anyone to lose weight while consuming 5000 kcal/day while sedentary. No amount of "but I am such a special snowflake" will change that. The entire point is that we're not that different. Offer up an explanation for what magic difference you possess that burns 2000-3000kcal/day for you, don't just spew lazy rhetoric.
    - Zenst 13y ago
      I have already covered this and you completely ignored it. It is you who is spewing up rhetoric. As for magic - seriously and as for being special - seriously! I'm above average height, think alot and I can not get by on 3k calories a day, somebody smaller with a slower metabolism who thinks less can, you just come along and asume it is wrong and justify it on the basis that you know better and offer NO evidence. Lets put this down to difference of oppinion and that you are not me and I am not you and as I have said everybody is different and it is those that impose such cookie cutter type attitudes that are the ones that concern me, thats you that is. Your tone has been dismissive, insulting and frankly everything that a troll is, if it looks like one, talks like one and acts like one. Well you can see my point of veiw and choose to ignore it, which you did and then went on to support my concerns with perfect clarity in an example you can't make up. Comming along and telling somebody that they are lieing because they don't fit the normal aspect is frankly not what these forums are about, sorry I don't have research paper written about me, but and this is the shocking news, not everybody does because we are all different. Applying an average against the top and bottom end of the scales is just silly and goes against what an average is meant to be. As for people who need higher than everage intakes for many reasons there are many examples if you can be bothered to look, and I have no desire to let you near my medical records or indeed go into detail about my medical history at all for the sake of pandering to somebody who offers no proof. And no I have not had a gastoric bypass, so you can count that one out. I wished I could eat what norms eat and maintain myself, I can't and I'm sorry I go against your hitleresk views off people.
      - 13y ago