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The submission is going to get censored, even if there is a proportion of people interested in talking about the topic. It's a shame, but there's no point in t

The submission is going to get censored, even if there is a proportion of people interested in talking about the topic. It's a shame, but there's no point in talking about it.

ColinWright 14y ago
You didn't answer the question. > The submission is going to get censored, ... You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. You submissions aren't being censored. Ordinary, everyday members of HN are flagging them as not adding value. If you spent some time here learning about these things you'd understand the dynamics better, but after our discussion on the other item you submitted complaining about how things work, I doubt you'll do that.
- mike_tan 14y ago
  >You submissions aren't being censored. Ordinary, everyday members of HN are flagging them as not adding value. If you spent some time here learning about these things you'd understand the dynamics better, but after our discussion on the other item you submitted complaining about how things work, I doubt you'll do that. I reasoned about every point we talked about. As you said, I didn't answer the question, so you don't know how long I've been reading HN. >I doubt you'll do that Please! The premise that I don't know how things work seem to be a construction of your desire to argue against me, even if it's not on merit of the argument alone.
  - ColinWright 14y ago
    OK, you've read my explanations. Let me just add these observations: * Meta-discussions get flagged by many, many member of the HN community. * Getting lots of flags tends to get you hell-banned. * You can complain about how HN works, but it probably won't change. * Evaluate your time and efforts accordingly.
sp332 14y ago
Hi mike_tan, I didn't realize there was already some discussion with you here. Two major points: 1. This does get discussed from time to time. Here is a post from the creator of the site, and a long discussion where members of the site hash things out. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=459289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=459289 2. Everyone knows that "flags" are more powerful than upvotes, and therefore they only flag things that they really think shouldn't be on this site. Flags are not used as downvotes. Some users can still see "dead" submissions. Go to your preferences and turn on "showdead" to see auto-killed spam submissions, comments from known trolls, etc.
- mike_tan 14y ago
  I know who Paul Graham is. >Flags are not used as downvotes I'm not as certain about that.

The submission is going to get censored, even if there is a proportion of people interested in talking about the topic. It's a shame, but there's no point in talking about it.

ColinWright 14y ago

You didn't answer the question. > The submission is going to get censored, ... You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. You submissions aren't being censored. Ordinary, everyday members of HN are flagging them as not adding value. If you spent some time here learning about these things you'd understand the dynamics better, but after our discussion on the other item you submitted complaining about how things work, I doubt you'll do that.

mike_tan 14y ago
>You submissions aren't being censored. Ordinary, everyday members of HN are flagging them as not adding value. If you spent some time here learning about these things you'd understand the dynamics better, but after our discussion on the other item you submitted complaining about how things work, I doubt you'll do that. I reasoned about every point we talked about. As you said, I didn't answer the question, so you don't know how long I've been reading HN. >I doubt you'll do that Please! The premise that I don't know how things work seem to be a construction of your desire to argue against me, even if it's not on merit of the argument alone.
- ColinWright 14y ago
  OK, you've read my explanations. Let me just add these observations: * Meta-discussions get flagged by many, many member of the HN community. * Getting lots of flags tends to get you hell-banned. * You can complain about how HN works, but it probably won't change. * Evaluate your time and efforts accordingly.

sp332 14y ago

Hi mike_tan, I didn't realize there was already some discussion with you here. Two major points: 1. This does get discussed from time to time. Here is a post from the creator of the site, and a long discussion where members of the site hash things out. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=459289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=459289 2. Everyone knows that "flags" are more powerful than upvotes, and therefore they only flag things that they really think shouldn't be on this site. Flags are not used as downvotes. Some users can still see "dead" submissions. Go to your preferences and turn on "showdead" to see auto-killed spam submissions, comments from known trolls, etc.

mike_tan 14y ago
I know who Paul Graham is. >Flags are not used as downvotes I'm not as certain about that.