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Answering the headline: no, eventually everything isn't hopeless bullshit. There's still a lot of hopless bullshit, but eventually you'll find something (or if

• GuiA 13y ago
  >This process is called 'growing up'. How condescending and uncalled for. Many great men and women committed suicide; it has nothing to do with "growing up" (or variations thereof)
  • claudius 13y ago
    I’d say many great people never grew up either – but that definitely depends on your definition of ‘growing up’. If you define it as reaching intellectual and more importantly emotional stability and maturity, then I can see how you could think of overcoming depressions or other psychological disorders as ‘growing up’.
    • GuiA 13y ago
      "growing up" is a subjective thing and has no unified definition. That being said, conflating lack of intellectual/emotional stability and maturity with depression is terribly short sighted and shows a lack of understanding of what depression is. I'd encourage you to educate yourself beyond the mainstream view of depression (= "oh but only goth teenagers or losers get depressed") before making such claims publicly.
  • kruhft 13y ago
    How interesting that naming a standard process of mental development through adulthood would garner such a negative response. Growing up is a process, not a state, that one is constantly achieving. That process is generally done through overcoming new obstacles and challenges that one hits during their life and overcoming them. From the definition: 3. To develop and reach maturity. 7. To come to be by a gradual process or by degrees; become Suicide is not development, or becoming by a degree, it is an escapism and the most concrete and final way of 'giving up'. By perserveering and overcoming your obstacles you learn that nothing is insurmountable given time, although it is usually never easy. I didn't not mean to be condicending in any way or to insult the decisions of the many great people that have chosen to take their liives. I was just speaking from experience.
    • nollidge 13y ago
      Just because you didn't intend to be condescending doesn't mean you weren't. > I was just speaking from experience. You ought to recognize that your personal experience is necessarily limited in its scope and applicability to others' lives.
      • kruhft 13y ago
        Yeah, you're right. The crushing, quasi-suicidal, life long depression that I went through and managed to overcome through non-medial means is nothing compared to the pain and suffering that you and the others in this dicussion are going through. Clearly, me expressing my experience that with time and overcoming the obstacles of depression is meant to be condacending rather than encouraging people to continue on with life and that things can and will get better with time and effort. Obviously, nobody else on the planet has experienced the changes that maturity brings, and those that do only talk about them to put down those that are younger than them and not to let people know what they can look forward to as they get older. In case you didn't notice, this post is filled with sarcasm.
        • nollidge 13y ago
          You're replying to what you think I said instead of what I actually said.
• scotty79 13y ago
  There's no such thing as growing up. Your spine gets longer you brain gets number. Various organs fail more often. That's it. Some of the things you've figured when forty other people figured out when they were seventeen. Adults are just tall kids.