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Wow, this is unbelieveable... I didn't realize they had this power, or that they'd exercise it like that... it's just scary to think that the internet is not a

by vxNsr 14y ago

Wow, this is unbelieveable... I didn't realize they had this power, or that they'd exercise it like that... it's just scary to think that the internet is not as free or open as it feels or appears.

Schlaefer 14y ago
This is nothing new, only the newly digitized weapon de jour is changing. Remember back in the nineties when exporting encryption was the hot topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_investigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_in...
- shitlord 14y ago
  The only actual difference being that cryptography never killed anyone...
  - eliasmacpherson 14y ago
    it saved lives probably, can't have that, verboten.
  - Schlaefer 14y ago
    You don't have to kill someone in line of sight with it to argue that a technology is a vital military asset. Nor has it to be its sole purpose. PS: Obligatory Enigma reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra PPS: I'm not saying encryption should regulated by the government.
  - smsm42 14y ago
    How many people were killed by a CAD file?
  - travisby 14y ago
    And neither has a plastic gun.
mtgx 14y ago
Was it on a .com domain? Because they've had the power to take those down for a few years now.
- cynwoody 14y ago
  I found it on a certain .nz domain[1], the owner of which (who, oddly enough, renamed himself after the TLD you mention) is currently thumbing his nose at the USG[2]. [1] https://mega.co.nz/#!JplQVDDQ!Qi8kflIn8kMZl0hK96YW1h7RIc9vz2SfErzB-7qRV-0 https://mega.co.nz/#!JplQVDDQ!Qi8kflIn8kMZl0hK96YW1h7RIc9vz2... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom
  - peteri 14y ago
    Certainly the silencer design is done by a friend of mine who lives in NZ who already avoids going to the US so I suspect that will stay up for a very long time.
Shivetya 14y ago
Typically they only have the power until a court intervenes. What they do is rely on the fact that many sites they take down or information they have removed stay that way as the operators cannot afford to the court costs. That and they will rely at times on public sympathy by using known "concerned groups" who are nothing more than fronts for various politicians.

by vxNsr 14y ago

Wow, this is unbelieveable... I didn't realize they had this power, or that they'd exercise it like that... it's just scary to think that the internet is not as free or open as it feels or appears.

Schlaefer 14y ago

This is nothing new, only the newly digitized weapon de jour is changing. Remember back in the nineties when exporting encryption was the hot topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_investigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Criminal_in...

shitlord 14y ago
The only actual difference being that cryptography never killed anyone...
- eliasmacpherson 14y ago
  it saved lives probably, can't have that, verboten.
- Schlaefer 14y ago
  You don't have to kill someone in line of sight with it to argue that a technology is a vital military asset. Nor has it to be its sole purpose. PS: Obligatory Enigma reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra PPS: I'm not saying encryption should regulated by the government.
- smsm42 14y ago
  How many people were killed by a CAD file?
- travisby 14y ago
  And neither has a plastic gun.

mtgx 14y ago

Was it on a .com domain? Because they've had the power to take those down for a few years now.

cynwoody 14y ago
I found it on a certain .nz domain[1], the owner of which (who, oddly enough, renamed himself after the TLD you mention) is currently thumbing his nose at the USG[2]. [1] https://mega.co.nz/#!JplQVDDQ!Qi8kflIn8kMZl0hK96YW1h7RIc9vz2SfErzB-7qRV-0 https://mega.co.nz/#!JplQVDDQ!Qi8kflIn8kMZl0hK96YW1h7RIc9vz2... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom
- peteri 14y ago
  Certainly the silencer design is done by a friend of mine who lives in NZ who already avoids going to the US so I suspect that will stay up for a very long time.

Shivetya 14y ago

Typically they only have the power until a court intervenes. What they do is rely on the fact that many sites they take down or information they have removed stay that way as the operators cannot afford to the court costs. That and they will rely at times on public sympathy by using known "concerned groups" who are nothing more than fronts for various politicians.