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They're on The Pirate Bay from what I understand, so its a little too late for that now...

__david__ 13y ago
In particular, magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0ad7b4f1833e01a3f2fa5613d8fc46de622339ac&dn=DefDist+Defcad+Liberator+Printable+Gun
zackelan 13y ago
Streisand Effect powers, ACTIVATE! magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6a991291e4c22d379e814be8b4d44f110ac7d1df&dn=DefDist+Defcad.org+AR-15+Lower+Receiver+V5 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1c012de81d94330055acce53f46602e7b510b46c&dn=defcad-repo-master-2013-05-08.zip magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0ad7b4f1833e01a3f2fa5613d8fc46de622339ac&dn=DefDist+Defcad+Liberator+Printable+Gun magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c862f0d031e575384acc6bacc2be7d705666d5bf&dn=DefDist+DEFCAD+MEGA+PACK+v4.2+%28Saito%29 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c37772020eab135e67aac243fb52e750f210a25c&dn=DefDist+DEFCAD+MEGA+PACK+v4.1+%28Carothers%29 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0f5f7f0a3e5a3e29b56868e19b60f0fe49c17474&dn=DefDist_DEFCAD_MEGA_PACK_v3.3 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2e26ad5ad4e0f3c7638b41daaaba3aba42b7eadc&dn=3D+gun+print+DEFCAD+MEGA+PACK+v3+with+updates+zip I don't have a 3D printer, and really, really don't care whether or not you can print a gun using one. But try to censor information about it, and I'll mirror it on my seedbox for as long as I can, just to piss you off. They can't stop the signal.
- mbreese 13y ago
  And you thought that the MPAA tracking torrents was bad... now not only are you seeding potential copyright infringement (I don't know what the license actually is), but you might now also be circumventing arms control laws. That is a whole level of legal hurt that I'd rather avoid. You might not be able to stop the signal, but I'm pretty sure Mr. Universe still died at the end of Serenity.
  - zackelan 13y ago
    http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-20.0&os=win&lang=en-US http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-20.0&os=win... That file didn't exist in 1995, but if it had, distributing it outside the US would also have run afoul of arms control laws. Technology changes, and laws change with it. The laws, almost without exception, lag several years behind the technology.
    - mbreese 13y ago
      Yeah, but that was for encryption. Encryption of today would have been unbreakable in 95. This is for... you know... actual arms. So, really, the law makes more sense here.
  - gonzo 13y ago
    the items that DD designed are all open source designs, so the likelyhood of copyright infringement is ... minimal.
mbreese 13y ago
If your goal is to stop the spread of the data, perhaps... but if you are caught with one of these guns now, you might also be prosecuted under arms control/export laws.
- tlrobinson 13y ago
  I believe it's legal to manufacture guns (that would normally be legal) for personal use in the United States without any permit or license or anything. Also they're not saying the data is illegal, it just may be illegal to "export".
  - mbreese 13y ago
    Yes, but if you use these instructions, which they've limited the distribution of, you'd be hard pressed to explain where you got them from. ATF agent: Oh, you got that from a torrent? Did you also seed the file? You can see where this is going, and it doesn't have a happy ending. If you do make one of these though, for the love of God embed a chunk of metal. These things wouldn't be legal without it (metal detectors).
    - jaxb 13y ago
      A firing pin?
      - momokatte 13y ago
        The "Liberator" instructions describe printing the frame of the gun first and epoxying 6oz of steel inside it to make it detectable by a walk-through metal detector, to be compliant with The Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988. Once this part is complete, the rest of the firearm can be manufactured without violating that particular law.
    - smsm42 13y ago
      >>>> you'd be hard pressed to explain where you got them from. Why you have to explain anything? As far as I know, you do not owe anybody to prove that you possess anything you have legally, if they suspect it is illegal they have to prove it.

In particular, magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0ad7b4f1833e01a3f2fa5613d8fc46de622339ac&dn=DefDist+Defcad+Liberator+Printable+Gun

Streisand Effect powers, ACTIVATE! magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6a991291e4c22d379e814be8b4d44f110ac7d1df&dn=DefDist+Defcad.org+AR-15+Lower+Receiver+V5 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1c012de81d94330055acce53f46602e7b510b46c&dn=defcad-repo-master-2013-05-08.zip magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0ad7b4f1833e01a3f2fa5613d8fc46de622339ac&dn=DefDist+Defcad+Liberator+Printable+Gun magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c862f0d031e575384acc6bacc2be7d705666d5bf&dn=DefDist+DEFCAD+MEGA+PACK+v4.2+%28Saito%29 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c37772020eab135e67aac243fb52e750f210a25c&dn=DefDist+DEFCAD+MEGA+PACK+v4.1+%28Carothers%29 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0f5f7f0a3e5a3e29b56868e19b60f0fe49c17474&dn=DefDist_DEFCAD_MEGA_PACK_v3.3 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2e26ad5ad4e0f3c7638b41daaaba3aba42b7eadc&dn=3D+gun+print+DEFCAD+MEGA+PACK+v3+with+updates+zip I don't have a 3D printer, and really, really don't care whether or not you can print a gun using one. But try to censor information about it, and I'll mirror it on my seedbox for as long as I can, just to piss you off. They can't stop the signal.

mbreese 13y ago
And you thought that the MPAA tracking torrents was bad... now not only are you seeding potential copyright infringement (I don't know what the license actually is), but you might now also be circumventing arms control laws. That is a whole level of legal hurt that I'd rather avoid. You might not be able to stop the signal, but I'm pretty sure Mr. Universe still died at the end of Serenity.
- zackelan 13y ago
  http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-20.0&os=win&lang=en-US http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-20.0&os=win... That file didn't exist in 1995, but if it had, distributing it outside the US would also have run afoul of arms control laws. Technology changes, and laws change with it. The laws, almost without exception, lag several years behind the technology.
  - mbreese 13y ago
    Yeah, but that was for encryption. Encryption of today would have been unbreakable in 95. This is for... you know... actual arms. So, really, the law makes more sense here.
- gonzo 13y ago
  the items that DD designed are all open source designs, so the likelyhood of copyright infringement is ... minimal.

mbreese 13y ago

If your goal is to stop the spread of the data, perhaps... but if you are caught with one of these guns now, you might also be prosecuted under arms control/export laws.

tlrobinson 13y ago
I believe it's legal to manufacture guns (that would normally be legal) for personal use in the United States without any permit or license or anything. Also they're not saying the data is illegal, it just may be illegal to "export".
- mbreese 13y ago
  Yes, but if you use these instructions, which they've limited the distribution of, you'd be hard pressed to explain where you got them from. ATF agent: Oh, you got that from a torrent? Did you also seed the file? You can see where this is going, and it doesn't have a happy ending. If you do make one of these though, for the love of God embed a chunk of metal. These things wouldn't be legal without it (metal detectors).
  - jaxb 13y ago
    A firing pin?
    - momokatte 13y ago
      The "Liberator" instructions describe printing the frame of the gun first and epoxying 6oz of steel inside it to make it detectable by a walk-through metal detector, to be compliant with The Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988. Once this part is complete, the rest of the firearm can be manufactured without violating that particular law.
  - smsm42 13y ago
    >>>> you'd be hard pressed to explain where you got them from. Why you have to explain anything? As far as I know, you do not owe anybody to prove that you possess anything you have legally, if they suspect it is illegal they have to prove it.