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Probably. from the video: "This car performs better than anything we've ever tested before. Let me repeat that: not just the best electric car, but the best

by Groxx 14y ago

Probably. from the video: "This car performs better than anything we've ever tested before. Let me repeat that: not just the best electric car, but the best car. It does just about everything really really well."

corresation 14y ago
They specifically state that their love of the vehicle is because it's an electric car -- that side effects of being an electric car yield a result that they enjoy (e.g. low battery packs helping weight distribution, etc). Does that really make every other car "mediocre"?
- Groxx 14y ago
  If electric cars allow producing things that are so much better, why haven't we seen them from other car companies? What's that R&D going to? In general, I got the feeling that "mediocre" was referring to all the shitty interfaces on cars, and general lack of polish that Tesla seems to be doing correctly. This is something that car companies could / should be doing for minimal effort since they employ so many and spend so much money, but they're not.
  - corresation 14y ago
    Again, this car is $90,000, which is a market that the major automakers aren't traditionally interested in (aside from very small-run flagship vehicles). I would expect the Tesla to be very polished at that price point.
    - Groxx 14y ago
      You hear similar things for their other cars (still high-end though, yes) - basically everything they've demoed has had reviews saying "wow" to the electric, and "even more wow" to the execution of everything else. Why is Tesla doing so well, with the same people, unless the existing industry has been lazy?
nilkn 14y ago
That statement is a far cry from saying that every other car in this price range is mediocre. Generally, $90k cars are pretty great. The Model S might just be slightly better due to, say, the battery pack helping weight distribution. This is also just one review. It's not like this is suddenly the world's universal judgment of the Model S.
- corresation 14y ago
  I tried to avoid going there, but there's there is the issue that Consumer Reports have generally terrible subjective reviews. They're great at objectively layout basic facts. Poor at subjective measures. Worse, over the past few years they've become rather attention crazed, so it's an endless sea of "iPhone not recommended"-type attention eliciting narratives.

by Groxx 14y ago

corresation 14y ago

They specifically state that their love of the vehicle is because it's an electric car -- that side effects of being an electric car yield a result that they enjoy (e.g. low battery packs helping weight distribution, etc). Does that really make every other car "mediocre"?

Groxx 14y ago
If electric cars allow producing things that are so much better, why haven't we seen them from other car companies? What's that R&D going to? In general, I got the feeling that "mediocre" was referring to all the shitty interfaces on cars, and general lack of polish that Tesla seems to be doing correctly. This is something that car companies could / should be doing for minimal effort since they employ so many and spend so much money, but they're not.
- corresation 14y ago
  Again, this car is $90,000, which is a market that the major automakers aren't traditionally interested in (aside from very small-run flagship vehicles). I would expect the Tesla to be very polished at that price point.
  - Groxx 14y ago
    You hear similar things for their other cars (still high-end though, yes) - basically everything they've demoed has had reviews saying "wow" to the electric, and "even more wow" to the execution of everything else. Why is Tesla doing so well, with the same people, unless the existing industry has been lazy?

nilkn 14y ago

That statement is a far cry from saying that every other car in this price range is mediocre. Generally, $90k cars are pretty great. The Model S might just be slightly better due to, say, the battery pack helping weight distribution. This is also just one review. It's not like this is suddenly the world's universal judgment of the Model S.

corresation 14y ago
I tried to avoid going there, but there's there is the issue that Consumer Reports have generally terrible subjective reviews. They're great at objectively layout basic facts. Poor at subjective measures. Worse, over the past few years they've become rather attention crazed, so it's an endless sea of "iPhone not recommended"-type attention eliciting narratives.