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"Another big selling point of the Asha 501 is definitely represented by its battery life, as it has an astonishing 17 hours talk time and up to 48 days of stand

"Another big selling point of the Asha 501 is definitely represented by its battery life, as it has an astonishing 17 hours talk time and up to 48 days of standby" I challenge you to find something comparable on the sites you've linked in terms of battery life.

claudius 13y ago
Hey, 48 hours standby isn’t all that much…oh wait.
- 6ren 13y ago
  48 DAYS (because I didn't pick up on it at first, even with your comment, it's so unexpected).
Kurtz79 13y ago
Is it really relevant in this day and age ? I can think of a very few cases (like, being lost in the Borneo jungle) where this would be actually useful in a normal environment. If you live someplace where you don't have easy access to a power outlet at least once per day, it's unlikely you will have support for the advanced features of a smartphone, and an older Nokia phone will work just as well ...
- claudius 13y ago
  I find it quite helpful that I don’t have to carry a charger with me for shortish trips, although my phone only lasts about 5 days with medium usage. Granted, if I carry my laptop with me anyway it is just an extra USB cable, but if I don’t, it’s another 200 or so grams I potentially have to carry uphill on a bike.
  - micampe 13y ago
    200gr? Dude, that's the laptop charger.
    - claudius 13y ago
      Hm, okay, this appears to depend strongly on the connector. For the UK, 130g[0] seems to be a common weight, whereas with the Europlug, you can get 18g[1] (I somewhat doubt that this weight is correct, but, well). Still an annoying item I have to carry with me that provides absolutely no other value. [0] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-USB-Mains-Charger/dp/B0028QHJSK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1368102344&sr=8-2 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-USB-Mains-Charger/dp/B... [1] http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-Universal-mini-Ladegerät-1000mA/dp/B003UFPJ0I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1368102451&sr=8-3 http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-Universal-mini-Ladegerät-1000mA/d...
- moystard 13y ago
  I find it absolutely dramatic that people have just accepted that battery life should be terrible with modern smartphone.
  - Kurtz79 13y ago
    It's a trade-off between features. A smartphone does much more than a traditional phone: wireless, 3G, and most of all, high resolution screens make the high consumption a necessary evil in order to deliver the added functionalities. Personally, I can't really see the added value of having to plug my smartphone less frequently than once per day, as opposed to have all the features offered in exchange. Power consumption only tells only part of the story : it should be compared to the features offered by the phone, and in which conditions. I doubt we are talking about 48 days of standby with wifi and 3G active, that would be how you normally use a smartphone.
    - moystard 13y ago
      I agree that having more features for a cost in term of battery life is a good trade-off. Still, the battery life argument is a good one when considering buying a new phone. Between different brands and models, you see a huge difference in term of battery life (think Motorola Android phones VS Apple iPhone 5). I see as an advantage not having to charge my phone every night, I like knowing that if I forget my charger when travelling, my phone won't be dead after a single day. This is just my personal experience, some people call a lot, some people go on the Internet a lot through 3G (and most phones out there won't last the entire day doing that), or simply the fact of knowing that after a few months of usage, my battery life won't be down to a few hours (yes, battery life goes worse with usage).
- eliasmacpherson 13y ago
  Short battery life would be more acceptable if they all charged from usb, but they don't. Festivals, staying out of home for days at a time, holidays - times when you really need a phone, are easier with long battery life. Don't know why people accept it.
  - claudius 13y ago
    Which phones don’t charge via USB, apart from the weird idea Apple has of a standard to require an extra cable?
- dspillett 13y ago
  > Is it really relevant in this day and age ? Yes. I find it quite inconvenient at times that my phone won't last two full days of normal standby/use cycles. There are times when it simply isn't convenient to charge the thing. And these phones are aimed more at less affluent parts of the world, where access to power is not nearly as reliable as it is over here in the west - even those in cities with significant electricity distribution infrastructure often experience lengthy blackouts either due to under-production/over-subscription or due to failures within the grid.

claudius 13y ago

Hey, 48 hours standby isn’t all that much…oh wait.

6ren 13y ago
48 DAYS (because I didn't pick up on it at first, even with your comment, it's so unexpected).

Kurtz79 13y ago

Is it really relevant in this day and age ? I can think of a very few cases (like, being lost in the Borneo jungle) where this would be actually useful in a normal environment. If you live someplace where you don't have easy access to a power outlet at least once per day, it's unlikely you will have support for the advanced features of a smartphone, and an older Nokia phone will work just as well ...

claudius 13y ago
I find it quite helpful that I don’t have to carry a charger with me for shortish trips, although my phone only lasts about 5 days with medium usage. Granted, if I carry my laptop with me anyway it is just an extra USB cable, but if I don’t, it’s another 200 or so grams I potentially have to carry uphill on a bike.
- micampe 13y ago
  200gr? Dude, that's the laptop charger.
  - claudius 13y ago
    Hm, okay, this appears to depend strongly on the connector. For the UK, 130g[0] seems to be a common weight, whereas with the Europlug, you can get 18g[1] (I somewhat doubt that this weight is correct, but, well). Still an annoying item I have to carry with me that provides absolutely no other value. [0] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-USB-Mains-Charger/dp/B0028QHJSK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1368102344&sr=8-2 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-USB-Mains-Charger/dp/B... [1] http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-Universal-mini-Ladegerät-1000mA/dp/B003UFPJ0I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1368102451&sr=8-3 http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-Universal-mini-Ladegerät-1000mA/d...
moystard 13y ago
I find it absolutely dramatic that people have just accepted that battery life should be terrible with modern smartphone.
- Kurtz79 13y ago
  It's a trade-off between features. A smartphone does much more than a traditional phone: wireless, 3G, and most of all, high resolution screens make the high consumption a necessary evil in order to deliver the added functionalities. Personally, I can't really see the added value of having to plug my smartphone less frequently than once per day, as opposed to have all the features offered in exchange. Power consumption only tells only part of the story : it should be compared to the features offered by the phone, and in which conditions. I doubt we are talking about 48 days of standby with wifi and 3G active, that would be how you normally use a smartphone.
  - moystard 13y ago
    I agree that having more features for a cost in term of battery life is a good trade-off. Still, the battery life argument is a good one when considering buying a new phone. Between different brands and models, you see a huge difference in term of battery life (think Motorola Android phones VS Apple iPhone 5). I see as an advantage not having to charge my phone every night, I like knowing that if I forget my charger when travelling, my phone won't be dead after a single day. This is just my personal experience, some people call a lot, some people go on the Internet a lot through 3G (and most phones out there won't last the entire day doing that), or simply the fact of knowing that after a few months of usage, my battery life won't be down to a few hours (yes, battery life goes worse with usage).
eliasmacpherson 13y ago
Short battery life would be more acceptable if they all charged from usb, but they don't. Festivals, staying out of home for days at a time, holidays - times when you really need a phone, are easier with long battery life. Don't know why people accept it.
- claudius 13y ago
  Which phones don’t charge via USB, apart from the weird idea Apple has of a standard to require an extra cable?
dspillett 13y ago
> Is it really relevant in this day and age ? Yes. I find it quite inconvenient at times that my phone won't last two full days of normal standby/use cycles. There are times when it simply isn't convenient to charge the thing. And these phones are aimed more at less affluent parts of the world, where access to power is not nearly as reliable as it is over here in the west - even those in cities with significant electricity distribution infrastructure often experience lengthy blackouts either due to under-production/over-subscription or due to failures within the grid.