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This is why you work with YC. If you're going to get into the SV ecosystem, in order to stay away from the bad actors, I think you have to align yourselves wit
by randall 13y ago
This is why you work with YC.
If you're going to get into the SV ecosystem, in order to stay away from the bad actors, I think you have to align yourselves with the forces for good. You think anyone will fuck with a YC company like that? Only if they want to be lambasted among most of the new / best / most promising startup founders in the valley.
- nickpinkston 13y agoYou're painting it like the mafia - like...exactly like the mafia...
- clobber 13y agoI agree he seems to be completely proving the parent poster's point along with the one from michaelochurch (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5678332 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5678332).
- michaelochurch 13y agoIn some societies, the organized crime contingent is morally better (and sometimes more competent) than the official police force. In the private sector where "law" is the whim of powerful people, that's almost invariably true. Whatever the good guys form (possibly centered around YC, and possibly something else) is going to be likened to the Mafia, a "don't fuck with us" collective that protects its own. After all, one of the Mafia's first (entirely just) social functions was to protect people against Pinkertons and other company police forces. The thing is, those with capital and connections have been using their social power for extortion ("you'll never raise another dime") for decades. If talent starts to fight back, that's a good thing.
- beachstartup 13y agohe's painting it like a business, which the mafia is. they just happen to do nothing but illegal projects.
- angersock 13y agoYeah, I'm not sure if the threat--justified or not--of a sort of mob outrage and harassment is really a sign of a healthy ecosystem. It's one thing to promote a culture where people help each other, another to promote one where people are cautioned about bad actors, and another still to seek to defame "bad actors". I'm not sure, especially in an industry whose demographics tend to the young and aggressive, that we want to be encouraging this sort of gang mentality. We've got shit to build and code to ship--who has time to beat their chest?
- randall 13y agoTo be clear, the bad guys are not the startup founders. They're the old school VCs and lawyers spoken of, who are used to taking advantage of startup founders. YC is a force for good in that without doing anything, bad actors are weeded out because nobody wants to be mean / do bad things to a YC company.