Fair enough. We cant stop it. Its done. It always was. Might as well stop the "chock and horror" thing, and just accept it. In the US, both political parties lo

Fair enough. We cant stop it. Its done. It always was. Might as well stop the "chock and horror" thing, and just accept it. In the US, both political parties love being able to spy on us, and in the UK we see the exact same thing. No main stream politicians or law enforcement will ever, ever give it up. So, have to ask, again, why the hell is any one wanting privacy from the authorities, who we know don't have our best interests at heart, still using electronic communications? It never was, isn't and never will be secure from them. If nothing else, almost every "terrorist" trial features some electronic communications evidence. Doesn't that tell us enough? Look, just ask your self why organisations like MI6 still use old skool drop boxes in Moscow. Tor? Its got government finger prints all over it. I trust it as far as I can throw it.