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I think you would find that there are a subset of people, myself included, that don't find that notion so insane. If you accept the idea that the purpose of the

I think you would find that there are a subset of people, myself included, that don't find that notion so insane. If you accept the idea that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the citizenry to overthrow their government then having the government restrict what citizens can and cannot purchase is somewhat nonsensical. Historically speaking, government restriction on firearm ownership is a relatively new thing. "Weapons of war" like ships and artillery were privately owned in this country as recently as the civil war. Believe it or not, the country didn't degrade into people waging private wars against each other, mass murder, etc...

6cxs2hd6 13y ago
To make sure I understand, you're saying we should have a constitutional right to own attack helicopters, armed UAVs, and nuclear, chemical and biological weapons? (And since the SCOTUS has opted to interpret that corporations are people, too, presumably they would have this right as well?) Although tyranny would be unquestionably bad, the proposed prophylactic for that hypothetical scenario is worse. Possibly I'm biased because I live in Boston and recently saw first-hand what a homemade IED can do. I am not eager to see people have the right to upgrade that kind of musket to the pro version.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Cannot corporations already own heavy duty weaponry? Aren't these the companies we are "contracting" to fight our wars for us? Regardless, being in favor of particular interpretations of the 2nd Amendment does not mean that you are automatically in favor of considering corporations people. > recently saw first-hand what a homemade IED can do. I am not eager to see people have the right to upgrade that kind of musket to the pro version. Weren't those bombs packed with the same stuff that you buy if you want to shoot your musket? There was a lot of misinformation going around at the time and I haven't kept up on that story so I honestly am not sure, but I am pretty sure the word is that they were pressure cookers with gunpowder (which you can buy "loose" to load your own rounds for modern guns, or use to load muskets). I am not sure that it makes sense for you, coming from your perspective, to be pushing something that would make buying loose gunpowder more mainstream.
dkuntz2 13y ago
I can't help myself on this one, but... > Believe it or not, the country didn't degrade into people waging private wars against each other, mass murder, etc... We did have a civil war (which is the end bound you placed on your time line). It wasn't a private war, it technically wasn't mass murder, but, it was a war. Again, sorry, I couldn't help myself on this one.
ucee054 13y ago
What was happening to the Native Americans at this time?
- jlgreco 13y ago
  They were spending their time being shot, primarily by the federal government.

6cxs2hd6 13y ago

To make sure I understand, you're saying we should have a constitutional right to own attack helicopters, armed UAVs, and nuclear, chemical and biological weapons? (And since the SCOTUS has opted to interpret that corporations are people, too, presumably they would have this right as well?) Although tyranny would be unquestionably bad, the proposed prophylactic for that hypothetical scenario is worse. Possibly I'm biased because I live in Boston and recently saw first-hand what a homemade IED can do. I am not eager to see people have the right to upgrade that kind of musket to the pro version.

jlgreco 13y ago
Cannot corporations already own heavy duty weaponry? Aren't these the companies we are "contracting" to fight our wars for us? Regardless, being in favor of particular interpretations of the 2nd Amendment does not mean that you are automatically in favor of considering corporations people. > recently saw first-hand what a homemade IED can do. I am not eager to see people have the right to upgrade that kind of musket to the pro version. Weren't those bombs packed with the same stuff that you buy if you want to shoot your musket? There was a lot of misinformation going around at the time and I haven't kept up on that story so I honestly am not sure, but I am pretty sure the word is that they were pressure cookers with gunpowder (which you can buy "loose" to load your own rounds for modern guns, or use to load muskets). I am not sure that it makes sense for you, coming from your perspective, to be pushing something that would make buying loose gunpowder more mainstream.

dkuntz2 13y ago

I can't help myself on this one, but... > Believe it or not, the country didn't degrade into people waging private wars against each other, mass murder, etc... We did have a civil war (which is the end bound you placed on your time line). It wasn't a private war, it technically wasn't mass murder, but, it was a war. Again, sorry, I couldn't help myself on this one.

ucee054 13y ago

What was happening to the Native Americans at this time?

jlgreco 13y ago
They were spending their time being shot, primarily by the federal government.