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It's ridiculous how un-Apple-like Photo Streams are. They solve one problem of sharing your photos across all your devices for VIEWING, but not for organizing/

It's ridiculous how un-Apple-like Photo Streams are. They solve one problem of sharing your photos across all your devices for VIEWING, but not for organizing/editing/deleting. It just creates copies of your photos everywhere. It's not a centralized place where you can keep your "good, sorted, organized, edited" photos with all the bad photos deleted. Photo Streams actually adds problems. If you want to completely delete a photo you just took (it turned out bad), you have to delete it in TWO places instead of one. Dropbox does a much better job at the latter (assuming you have enough space for your photos on it; I do). To solve this problem, you need to create a good "home" for people's photos. Right now, the Camera Roll remains the only viable home, but it has many downsides (unable to be accessed or edited from other devices, can't manually add older photos). Basically, with Photo Streams, Apple violate the DRY principle [1] and it creates more problems than it solves. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dont_repeat_yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dont_repeat_yourself

shurcooL 13y ago
After many years of taking photos, I find the best way to organize them for me is to only take few photos and keep them sorted by time. The way Camera Roll does already. It's perfect. Now if my Camera Roll were synced across devices rather than having duplicate photos in Photo Stream, that would be much much better. And if I could add photos to that time-sorted stream from multiple devices (bonus points for SLRs)... That would be how it should've been from day 1.
astral303 13y ago
One of the original reasons I switched to a Mac back in 2008 was iPhoto. The automatic event splitting by date struck me as brilliant--it was exactly what I wanted most of the time. Multi-day events were easy to merge. At the time, Apple also had a great online gallery that made it simple to share photos. Flickr was (and still is) overly complicated in comparison. That's been gone for years and is kinda sorta back as shared photo streams. So your comment about how "un-Apple-like" Photo Streams is so damn true. C'mon Apple, figure this shit out.
- smackfu 13y ago
  Kind of amazing that they don't do automatic events on the phone. It seems like an obvious natural thing to group together photos that share a common location and time.
nhangen 13y ago
Not to mention that using camera roll makes it very difficult to backup to iCloud, unless you pay for the extra storage.
lloyddobbler 13y ago
The above may be the best explanation of PhotoStream I've seen. What PhotoStream accomplishes: lets you VIEW your photos anywhere. Problem is, that's not exactly what most of us thought it was for, because it's not solving the biggest problem we have: finding a universal HOME for our photos. We want wireless syncing of our photo libraries, and the ability to manage that remotely. So like you said, we get into DRY issues - the issue of having to delete your photos in both PhotoStream AND on the device is super-cumbersome. It's very un-Apple-like - to the point that I wonder if they did any user testing at all on this one.

shurcooL 13y ago

After many years of taking photos, I find the best way to organize them for me is to only take few photos and keep them sorted by time. The way Camera Roll does already. It's perfect. Now if my Camera Roll were synced across devices rather than having duplicate photos in Photo Stream, that would be much much better. And if I could add photos to that time-sorted stream from multiple devices (bonus points for SLRs)... That would be how it should've been from day 1.

astral303 13y ago

One of the original reasons I switched to a Mac back in 2008 was iPhoto. The automatic event splitting by date struck me as brilliant--it was exactly what I wanted most of the time. Multi-day events were easy to merge. At the time, Apple also had a great online gallery that made it simple to share photos. Flickr was (and still is) overly complicated in comparison. That's been gone for years and is kinda sorta back as shared photo streams. So your comment about how "un-Apple-like" Photo Streams is so damn true. C'mon Apple, figure this shit out.

smackfu 13y ago
Kind of amazing that they don't do automatic events on the phone. It seems like an obvious natural thing to group together photos that share a common location and time.

nhangen 13y ago

Not to mention that using camera roll makes it very difficult to backup to iCloud, unless you pay for the extra storage.

lloyddobbler 13y ago

The above may be the best explanation of PhotoStream I've seen. What PhotoStream accomplishes: lets you VIEW your photos anywhere. Problem is, that's not exactly what most of us thought it was for, because it's not solving the biggest problem we have: finding a universal HOME for our photos. We want wireless syncing of our photo libraries, and the ability to manage that remotely. So like you said, we get into DRY issues - the issue of having to delete your photos in both PhotoStream AND on the device is super-cumbersome. It's very un-Apple-like - to the point that I wonder if they did any user testing at all on this one.