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Using celery for the first time, coming from PHP-land, blew my mind. Python is now my language of choice for "getting shit done".

by thejosh 14y ago

crdoconnor 14y ago
Returning to PHP land afterwards feels like you're taping your code together with duct tape and bits of string.
- ceol 14y ago
  At the risk of this becoming a "bash PHP" thread, that's exactly how I feel. Unless I'm doing something very simple, it's always easier, cleaner, and simpler to do it in Python. Even building a basic CRUD app is night and day between the two languages; Django is beautiful and intuitive, while the PHP frameworks come close but have a few snags that make working with them frustrating. I write this not to meaninglessly bash PHP but to hopefully convince even a single developer passing by to try out Python. I thought the same thing as you, passer-by dev, once: "Why do I need Python? It's stupid. It uses whitespace weirdly. I can do whatever I need in PHP." But then you realize you could be doing everything you're doing in PHP... better, smarter, and faster.
  - camus 14y ago
    The fact is PHP has excellent frameworks. I tried Django and Flask , and love them. But for now , i'm sticking to PHP( to much legacy code to port ). For new projects ? sure. The only thing which is a bit more complicated with serverside python is deployment on client servers, the rest ( development , testing ), is easier than PHP. I only wished Python had type hinting for functions and methods like PHP does though. Aside from these issues , Python is perfect,more consice and have awesome stuffs like decorators. And a whole lot of awesome libraries.
  - lmm 14y ago
    I'm getting the same feeling now that I have to work in python/django after having used scala. So it's always worth trying new languages, even when you've found one that seems great at the time.

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Using celery for the first time, coming from PHP-land, blew my mind. Python is now my language of choice for "getting shit done".

by thejosh 14y ago

Using celery for the first time, coming from PHP-land, blew my mind. Python is now my language of choice for "getting shit done".

crdoconnor 14y ago
Returning to PHP land afterwards feels like you're taping your code together with duct tape and bits of string.
- ceol 14y ago
  At the risk of this becoming a "bash PHP" thread, that's exactly how I feel. Unless I'm doing something very simple, it's always easier, cleaner, and simpler to do it in Python. Even building a basic CRUD app is night and day between the two languages; Django is beautiful and intuitive, while the PHP frameworks come close but have a few snags that make working with them frustrating. I write this not to meaninglessly bash PHP but to hopefully convince even a single developer passing by to try out Python. I thought the same thing as you, passer-by dev, once: "Why do I need Python? It's stupid. It uses whitespace weirdly. I can do whatever I need in PHP." But then you realize you could be doing everything you're doing in PHP... better, smarter, and faster.
  - camus 14y ago
    The fact is PHP has excellent frameworks. I tried Django and Flask , and love them. But for now , i'm sticking to PHP( to much legacy code to port ). For new projects ? sure. The only thing which is a bit more complicated with serverside python is deployment on client servers, the rest ( development , testing ), is easier than PHP. I only wished Python had type hinting for functions and methods like PHP does though. Aside from these issues , Python is perfect,more consice and have awesome stuffs like decorators. And a whole lot of awesome libraries.
  - lmm 14y ago
    I'm getting the same feeling now that I have to work in python/django after having used scala. So it's always worth trying new languages, even when you've found one that seems great at the time.