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Is there a monetization strategy? Seems like I see things like this popup every couple months. Is there really a demand?

by visualR 13y ago

jparmer 13y ago
Lots of private companies with R&D don't like their data leaving the building, but want a collaborative tool that's more technical than G docs. We're exploring this space, hopefully while providing a kick-ass, free or very cheap graphing tool for the public at large.
- visualR 13y ago
  In my experience the public at large is satisfied with Excel/Numbers, while scientists prefer their power tools like R or Matlab. Perhaps you should pivot and build something like RStudio but for numpy.
  - simonster 13y ago
    Isn't IPython essentially RStudio for Python? I'm greatly enamored of IPython Notebook's general approach to organizing data analysis (see http://ipython.org/notebook.html http://ipython.org/notebook.html), although 1) it currently lacks interactive plotting tools and 2) I think it's targeted toward a more technical audience than this.
    - kyzyl 13y ago
      To take that a step further, Continuum Analytics has a product called Wakari[1] that is pretty much a web-based, sandboxed, nicely glued together version of everything mentioned in this thread: python environment, IDE, IPython notebook, interactive plotting, collaborative sharing, SSH console, file manager, dataset manager. It hooks into various APIs, S3, etc., and based on my usage so far it is very good UI/UX decisions... almost as if actual scientists designed it. Of course, it is not free! Right now it's in beta and (I think) anyone can try it though. I'm not sure what their plan is for pricing, although I do believe they mentioned a local install option for clients who don't want their data walking out of the building. (I am in no way affiliated) [1] http://www.wakari.io http://www.wakari.io
      - pwang 13y ago
        Actually, it is free! There are paid plans but there will always be a free tier, at least if I have anything to say about it. The pricing plans are here: https://www.wakari.io/plans https://www.wakari.io/plans There is also an enterprise version that customers can install on their own premises or cluster.
      - darkarmani 13y ago
        Thank you for your kind comments. The lowest tier of service will remain free after the beta is finished. The free tier gives you access to a lot less resources, but it should still be useful. Within the next week, we'll be pushing Ipython clustering. You'll be able to pay for additional compute nodes of various sizes and Wakari will provision them and integrate them into an Ipcluster.
        kyzyl 13y ago
        Thanks for correcting me, both of you. Goes to show that you can't trust everything people say on the internet :-) Seriously though, great work on your whole product suite! I keep finding myself going "I wish it would.... oh, it does.", and that's the kind of thing that will keep me around. side note: when viewing a slice of the yahoo dataset plotted interactively in wakari, the zoom tool seems to completely crap out. the whole notebook hangs. updated chrome on win 7.
        quasiben 13y ago
        How big was the slice? Were you trying to plot with bokeh or matplotlib?
        kyzyl 13y ago
        Bokeh, and it was a complete vertical slice through the stocks "dataframe"... so one point for how every many tickers there are... probably around 3300? It's a lot of points, but I was just pointing out that it wasn't slow, it failed.
    - pwang 13y ago
      IPython is not like RStudio, at all. The closest Python thing to RStudio is Spyder (spyderlib.googlecode.com). IPython Notebook can serve similar purposes of data exploration as RStudio, however.
SkyMarshal 13y ago
One is to sell the technology and team to a larger company that building a suite of cloud-based related products. For example this might complement the Google Docs suite well, or any cloud-based data analysis toolkit suite.

Is there a monetization strategy? Seems like I see things like this popup every couple months. Is there really a demand?

by visualR 13y ago

Is there a monetization strategy? Seems like I see things like this popup every couple months. Is there really a demand?

jparmer 13y ago

Lots of private companies with R&D don't like their data leaving the building, but want a collaborative tool that's more technical than G docs. We're exploring this space, hopefully while providing a kick-ass, free or very cheap graphing tool for the public at large.

visualR 13y ago
In my experience the public at large is satisfied with Excel/Numbers, while scientists prefer their power tools like R or Matlab. Perhaps you should pivot and build something like RStudio but for numpy.
- simonster 13y ago
  Isn't IPython essentially RStudio for Python? I'm greatly enamored of IPython Notebook's general approach to organizing data analysis (see http://ipython.org/notebook.html http://ipython.org/notebook.html), although 1) it currently lacks interactive plotting tools and 2) I think it's targeted toward a more technical audience than this.
  - kyzyl 13y ago
    To take that a step further, Continuum Analytics has a product called Wakari[1] that is pretty much a web-based, sandboxed, nicely glued together version of everything mentioned in this thread: python environment, IDE, IPython notebook, interactive plotting, collaborative sharing, SSH console, file manager, dataset manager. It hooks into various APIs, S3, etc., and based on my usage so far it is very good UI/UX decisions... almost as if actual scientists designed it. Of course, it is not free! Right now it's in beta and (I think) anyone can try it though. I'm not sure what their plan is for pricing, although I do believe they mentioned a local install option for clients who don't want their data walking out of the building. (I am in no way affiliated) [1] http://www.wakari.io http://www.wakari.io
    - pwang 13y ago
      Actually, it is free! There are paid plans but there will always be a free tier, at least if I have anything to say about it. The pricing plans are here: https://www.wakari.io/plans https://www.wakari.io/plans There is also an enterprise version that customers can install on their own premises or cluster.
    - darkarmani 13y ago
      Thank you for your kind comments. The lowest tier of service will remain free after the beta is finished. The free tier gives you access to a lot less resources, but it should still be useful. Within the next week, we'll be pushing Ipython clustering. You'll be able to pay for additional compute nodes of various sizes and Wakari will provision them and integrate them into an Ipcluster.
      - kyzyl 13y ago
        Thanks for correcting me, both of you. Goes to show that you can't trust everything people say on the internet :-) Seriously though, great work on your whole product suite! I keep finding myself going "I wish it would.... oh, it does.", and that's the kind of thing that will keep me around. side note: when viewing a slice of the yahoo dataset plotted interactively in wakari, the zoom tool seems to completely crap out. the whole notebook hangs. updated chrome on win 7.
        quasiben 13y ago
        How big was the slice? Were you trying to plot with bokeh or matplotlib?
        kyzyl 13y ago
        Bokeh, and it was a complete vertical slice through the stocks "dataframe"... so one point for how every many tickers there are... probably around 3300? It's a lot of points, but I was just pointing out that it wasn't slow, it failed.
  - pwang 13y ago
    IPython is not like RStudio, at all. The closest Python thing to RStudio is Spyder (spyderlib.googlecode.com). IPython Notebook can serve similar purposes of data exploration as RStudio, however.

SkyMarshal 13y ago

One is to sell the technology and team to a larger company that building a suite of cloud-based related products. For example this might complement the Google Docs suite well, or any cloud-based data analysis toolkit suite.