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I'm glad you posted this. I vehemently disagree as well. I dropped out of a top 10ish econ phd program. "The risk of failure is low." Yeah right. Even his own

by fnayr 13y ago

I'm glad you posted this. I vehemently disagree as well. I dropped out of a top 10ish econ phd program. "The risk of failure is low." Yeah right. Even his own statistics don't back that up. "which doesn't force me to work 80 hours a week" But if you're a tenure track professor, you most certainly still will be. I have many other examples of disagreements, but don't have time to point them out right now.

aggronn 13y ago
I like how he mentions how good job prospects are, even for mid-level schools, then cites Michigan. This article is worthless. edit: to clarify, as mentioned below, Michigan is a top program.
- theorique 13y ago
  Why is it a bad idea to cite Michigan here? (edit: GO BLUE)
  - fnayr 13y ago
    Because it's a top econ program, and he's using it to prove that mid level programs have great job prospects.
  - zampano 13y ago
    UMich is not really emblematic of mid-level schools. While rankings don't mean a lot, UMich is still ranked #13 by US News & World Reports for graduate-level economics and thus would be either one of the lower top-tier schools or near the top of the mid-tier. It would probably be easier to get a good job from UMich than the vast majority of other mid-tier schools.
    - theorique 13y ago
      Ah, thanks. I'm not an economist so the rankings were unfamiliar to me.
BrianEatWorld 13y ago
I think he is referring to abject failure. As he points out, failure to get a PhD, simply results in a MA or MS. As for the work schedule, that 80 hours a week may be a case for a tenure track professor, but the bulk of economists are employed by the government. In government work, you rarely work beyond normal hours and getting a masters, let alone a PhD will automatically bump you up the GS payscale (GS11 for masters and GS14 for PhD, if I recall), to the point where you can get six figures simply working a 9 to 5 with ridiculous vacation and retirement benefits. http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2012/general-schedule/dcb.pdf http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-...

by fnayr 13y ago

aggronn 13y ago

I like how he mentions how good job prospects are, even for mid-level schools, then cites Michigan. This article is worthless. edit: to clarify, as mentioned below, Michigan is a top program.

theorique 13y ago
Why is it a bad idea to cite Michigan here? (edit: GO BLUE)
- fnayr 13y ago
  Because it's a top econ program, and he's using it to prove that mid level programs have great job prospects.
- zampano 13y ago
  UMich is not really emblematic of mid-level schools. While rankings don't mean a lot, UMich is still ranked #13 by US News & World Reports for graduate-level economics and thus would be either one of the lower top-tier schools or near the top of the mid-tier. It would probably be easier to get a good job from UMich than the vast majority of other mid-tier schools.
  - theorique 13y ago
    Ah, thanks. I'm not an economist so the rankings were unfamiliar to me.

BrianEatWorld 13y ago

I think he is referring to abject failure. As he points out, failure to get a PhD, simply results in a MA or MS. As for the work schedule, that 80 hours a week may be a case for a tenure track professor, but the bulk of economists are employed by the government. In government work, you rarely work beyond normal hours and getting a masters, let alone a PhD will automatically bump you up the GS payscale (GS11 for masters and GS14 for PhD, if I recall), to the point where you can get six figures simply working a 9 to 5 with ridiculous vacation and retirement benefits. http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2012/general-schedule/dcb.pdf http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-...