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Your data is wrong, sir. Most trucks cook with gas, and it would be crazy to idle their main engine. If they need power they use a portable generator. Having

Your data is wrong, sir. Most trucks cook with gas, and it would be crazy to idle their main engine. If they need power they use a portable generator. Having just returned from a week in Portland, I can personally vouch for the amazing diversity and quality of the food truck scene and what it's done for the city and people. Price? All over the map, from $2 tacos to $6 noodle plates. The best part is that you can literally try a different one each day. Finally, I know that you are not a racist, but that thing you said about parasites invading was pretty fucking racist. Immigrant entrepreneurs should be encouraged, food trucks are an excellent way to do that, and we get to enjoy amazing food. Portland's restaurant scene is thriving as ever, unless it's Subway you feel sorry for. Heck, many of the best restaurants (Pok Pok) started as a food truck.

Zimahl 14y ago
We love our food trucks here in Portland and anyone who loves good business should too. Carts have many great advantages: 1) Cheap(er) proof of concepts. Why open a big restaurant that can cost an insane amount of money and (likely) fail? Try out that niche food option and see where it goes, if you need to pivot it's not going to bankrupt you. 2) The American Dream. You can start something with passion and little capital and become fairly successful. 3) We all win because we get great food options. 4) Low overhead if you run it yourself and/or with your family. No need to deal with employees and the accounting that comes with them. 5) Flexibility. A great Thai food cart up near Portland State (Thai Pasta) was closed for a month due to a family trip to Thailand. Try doing that with a brick-and-mortar restaurant.
- shiftpgdn 14y ago
  For what its worth a local vietnamese shop closed up for two months while they took their entire staff back to Vietnam. http://huynhrestauranthouston.com/ http://huynhrestauranthouston.com/
chrisdinn 14y ago
Quite a leap from food trucks as parasites to racism. Racism is serious business and I don't think that criticism was in good faith.
- erikpukinskis 14y ago
  Have you never heard anyone refer to immigrants as parasites?
HeyImAlex 14y ago
>Finally, I know that you are not a racist, but that thing you said about parasites invading was pretty fucking racist. I think you might have read too much into that; sounds like they were calling the food trucks themselves invading parasites.
- pseut 14y ago
  FWIW "invading parasites" is a phrase that one should avoid in American English if he or she wants to avoid sounding racist. Many people will read "too much" into it whether intended or not, so it's best to avoid it.
  - shiftpgdn 14y ago
    I think you might be a little too sensitive and in all probability I imagine you get offended by the word "dongles" as well. I would recommend descending from your ivory towers for a dose of the real world every now and then lest you lose touch with things that are actually offensive.
    - walshemj 14y ago
      Realy with food trucks often serving ethnic food and run/staffed by ethnics. Its just like you likened Indian/Chinese restaurants to "parasites invading" Yes the term is racist in this case
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  - joonix 14y ago
    Uh... no. I have never see this connoted as racist. You don't get to dictate what phrases the public can't use.
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wonderyak 14y ago
Taco trucks have been a mainstay of Los Angeles foodstuffs for a long time before the current trend of 'gourmet' truck food started. I'm not sure if the mobile/car-centric nature of the city tends to endear us to a mobile food cooking service or what; the 'food truck' craze has been very poopular here. Since buying/leasing a physical location is such a costly and risky venture, these trucks have been a great way for budding restaurateurs to get their feet in the door; see what works, what doesn't and perhaps eventually open a physical location. People get experience doing something they love and building a business, people get fed with interesting food that would be prohibitively expensive or otherwise difficult to discover (due to culinary fusion or other reasons), and the city gets tax revenue. Win/Win in my book.
jellicle 14y ago
> Finally, I know that you are not a racist, but that thing you said about parasites invading was pretty fucking racist. That might be the stupidest comment I've encountered this week. You think my analogy which compared the city defending its thoroughfares against food truck blockages with a body's immune system defending its blood vessels is.... racist? You think white blood cells are racist blood cells? HN quality of discourse (and reading comprehension) is not great nowadays.
- davidw 14y ago
  > HN quality of discourse (and reading comprehension) is not great nowadays. Calling food trucks "parasites", rather than a more data-driven, less passionate, and more economically aware comment is not moving the average quality of commentary on the site in the right direction, if I may say so.
lmickh 14y ago
Seems to me that thinking foodtrucks are only run by immigrants would make you the racist. He never said anything about the background of the owners and operators. Thanks for playing the blind accusation game though. You get an A for effort.
- danielharan 14y ago
  Thinking it? Just go to any city and as stated in TFA, you'll notice most of them are immigrants. Is it racist to notice an industry is almost entirely made up of immigrants?
  - cma 14y ago
    The parasite part was clearly referencing the earlier clogging up the public roads without paying for the privilege part of his comment.
peteforde 14y ago
For those of you who think I was wrong to suggest that jellicle's statement was uncomfortably racist: we might have to agree to disagree, here. The vast majority of street food is run by immigrants, and it's a perfect entry point for them to get into the local economy they have chosen to make their home in. People who were born here are smart to use the food truck as a way to test a concept before they try it in a restaurant format. Perhaps we'll see that happening more and more. There's certainly all cultures represented in Portland. Meanwhile, we're all immigrants here unless you come from native background. I don't think the original commenter is a racist person, but his comment comparing food trucks to parasites is uncomfortable at best and shameful at worst. Here's a test: go ask 100 food truck operators if they think some guy on a tech forum calling food trucks "parasites" is racist, and get back to us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc

Zimahl 14y ago

We love our food trucks here in Portland and anyone who loves good business should too. Carts have many great advantages: 1) Cheap(er) proof of concepts. Why open a big restaurant that can cost an insane amount of money and (likely) fail? Try out that niche food option and see where it goes, if you need to pivot it's not going to bankrupt you. 2) The American Dream. You can start something with passion and little capital and become fairly successful. 3) We all win because we get great food options. 4) Low overhead if you run it yourself and/or with your family. No need to deal with employees and the accounting that comes with them. 5) Flexibility. A great Thai food cart up near Portland State (Thai Pasta) was closed for a month due to a family trip to Thailand. Try doing that with a brick-and-mortar restaurant.

shiftpgdn 14y ago
For what its worth a local vietnamese shop closed up for two months while they took their entire staff back to Vietnam. http://huynhrestauranthouston.com/ http://huynhrestauranthouston.com/

chrisdinn 14y ago

Quite a leap from food trucks as parasites to racism. Racism is serious business and I don't think that criticism was in good faith.

erikpukinskis 14y ago
Have you never heard anyone refer to immigrants as parasites?

HeyImAlex 14y ago

>Finally, I know that you are not a racist, but that thing you said about parasites invading was pretty fucking racist. I think you might have read too much into that; sounds like they were calling the food trucks themselves invading parasites.

pseut 14y ago
FWIW "invading parasites" is a phrase that one should avoid in American English if he or she wants to avoid sounding racist. Many people will read "too much" into it whether intended or not, so it's best to avoid it.
- shiftpgdn 14y ago
  I think you might be a little too sensitive and in all probability I imagine you get offended by the word "dongles" as well. I would recommend descending from your ivory towers for a dose of the real world every now and then lest you lose touch with things that are actually offensive.
  - walshemj 14y ago
    Realy with food trucks often serving ethnic food and run/staffed by ethnics. Its just like you likened Indian/Chinese restaurants to "parasites invading" Yes the term is racist in this case
    - deleted 14y ago
      [deleted]
- joonix 14y ago
  Uh... no. I have never see this connoted as racist. You don't get to dictate what phrases the public can't use.
  - deleted 14y ago
    [deleted]

wonderyak 14y ago

Taco trucks have been a mainstay of Los Angeles foodstuffs for a long time before the current trend of 'gourmet' truck food started. I'm not sure if the mobile/car-centric nature of the city tends to endear us to a mobile food cooking service or what; the 'food truck' craze has been very poopular here. Since buying/leasing a physical location is such a costly and risky venture, these trucks have been a great way for budding restaurateurs to get their feet in the door; see what works, what doesn't and perhaps eventually open a physical location. People get experience doing something they love and building a business, people get fed with interesting food that would be prohibitively expensive or otherwise difficult to discover (due to culinary fusion or other reasons), and the city gets tax revenue. Win/Win in my book.

jellicle 14y ago

> Finally, I know that you are not a racist, but that thing you said about parasites invading was pretty fucking racist. That might be the stupidest comment I've encountered this week. You think my analogy which compared the city defending its thoroughfares against food truck blockages with a body's immune system defending its blood vessels is.... racist? You think white blood cells are racist blood cells? HN quality of discourse (and reading comprehension) is not great nowadays.

davidw 14y ago
> HN quality of discourse (and reading comprehension) is not great nowadays. Calling food trucks "parasites", rather than a more data-driven, less passionate, and more economically aware comment is not moving the average quality of commentary on the site in the right direction, if I may say so.

lmickh 14y ago

Seems to me that thinking foodtrucks are only run by immigrants would make you the racist. He never said anything about the background of the owners and operators. Thanks for playing the blind accusation game though. You get an A for effort.

danielharan 14y ago
Thinking it? Just go to any city and as stated in TFA, you'll notice most of them are immigrants. Is it racist to notice an industry is almost entirely made up of immigrants?
- cma 14y ago
  The parasite part was clearly referencing the earlier clogging up the public roads without paying for the privilege part of his comment.

peteforde 14y ago

For those of you who think I was wrong to suggest that jellicle's statement was uncomfortably racist: we might have to agree to disagree, here. The vast majority of street food is run by immigrants, and it's a perfect entry point for them to get into the local economy they have chosen to make their home in. People who were born here are smart to use the food truck as a way to test a concept before they try it in a restaurant format. Perhaps we'll see that happening more and more. There's certainly all cultures represented in Portland. Meanwhile, we're all immigrants here unless you come from native background. I don't think the original commenter is a racist person, but his comment comparing food trucks to parasites is uncomfortable at best and shameful at worst. Here's a test: go ask 100 food truck operators if they think some guy on a tech forum calling food trucks "parasites" is racist, and get back to us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc