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>> yet companies make it really, really hard to get a job. It is much better to filter out some perfectly good candidates than accidentally hire the wrong cand

>> yet companies make it really, really hard to get a job. It is much better to filter out some perfectly good candidates than accidentally hire the wrong candidate. The wrong hire can be very disruptive, and in some cases fatal for a company. Firing the wrong hire is very, very hard. >> but it seems it's almost easier to raise money for your startup than to get a job Raising money is like interviewing for three jobs at once: CEO, CFO, and CTO. [EDIT] removed some platitudes and fixed fatal.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago
Someone who recites platitudes instead of evidence and can't spell "fatal" wouldn't get a job at any company I run ;-). Rejected.
dirktheman 13y ago
Hiring the wrong person is potentially dangerous for your business, there's no denying that. However, the tendency today is the demand for hiring 'rockstar' programmers for essentially pretty mundane jobs. This poses two problems: an artificial shortage of qualified programmers, and if you manage to find one, you hire an overqualified programmer who is likely to get bored and unmotivated within a couple of weeks.
- bane 13y ago
  > you manage to find one, you hire an overqualified programmer who is likely to get bored and unmotivated within a couple of weeks. Or, to keep themselves interested, end up over-engineering even simple bits, making their work a nightmare to maintain.
nandemo 13y ago
> It is much better to filter out some perfectly good candidates than accidentally hire the wrong candidate. If the companies OP cites were operating under that principle, they should be able to say Hire or No Hire after the last interview. Waiting over 1 month to decide won't make the candidate improve; the only reason to do so is to look for a better candidate, or hire OP if no better candidate is found, but in that case they aren't exactly using the principle above.
walshemj 13y ago
Oh come one firing people is easy both in the UK and USA. The USA is at will and in the UK the first two years are effectively at will.
- stevewilhelm 13y ago
  >> Oh come one firing people is easy In California, to avoid litigation lawyers get involved, the whole process gets documented, orchestrated, and some kind of separation agreement is negotiated. But mostly it's emotionally very hard and very stressful. The decision is not taken lightly.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago

Someone who recites platitudes instead of evidence and can't spell "fatal" wouldn't get a job at any company I run ;-). Rejected.

dirktheman 13y ago

Hiring the wrong person is potentially dangerous for your business, there's no denying that. However, the tendency today is the demand for hiring 'rockstar' programmers for essentially pretty mundane jobs. This poses two problems: an artificial shortage of qualified programmers, and if you manage to find one, you hire an overqualified programmer who is likely to get bored and unmotivated within a couple of weeks.

bane 13y ago
> you manage to find one, you hire an overqualified programmer who is likely to get bored and unmotivated within a couple of weeks. Or, to keep themselves interested, end up over-engineering even simple bits, making their work a nightmare to maintain.

nandemo 13y ago

> It is much better to filter out some perfectly good candidates than accidentally hire the wrong candidate. If the companies OP cites were operating under that principle, they should be able to say Hire or No Hire after the last interview. Waiting over 1 month to decide won't make the candidate improve; the only reason to do so is to look for a better candidate, or hire OP if no better candidate is found, but in that case they aren't exactly using the principle above.

walshemj 13y ago

Oh come one firing people is easy both in the UK and USA. The USA is at will and in the UK the first two years are effectively at will.

stevewilhelm 13y ago
>> Oh come one firing people is easy In California, to avoid litigation lawyers get involved, the whole process gets documented, orchestrated, and some kind of separation agreement is negotiated. But mostly it's emotionally very hard and very stressful. The decision is not taken lightly.